This is not my gun, or my auction, so I hope this is OK here. Mods, please delete this if it is against the rules.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=218002336
I will sell a couple of guns to own one of these soon. I saw them at SHOT the last couple years and always wondered if we would ever see them. I guess they are here!
Fascinating. They did wind up putting that stupid tab on the barrel extension so the 416 carrier assemblies won’t work, and did you notice it has an M16 hammer?
Well, I loved the pictures…
I think I need to wait a decade or so for the price to go down… LOL!
Rmpl
The tab on the barrel is a German thing so mil 416 bolts will not work with the MR223s. So they just carried it over.
The M16 hammer without the notch is necessary to engage the firing pin safety.
I know why it doesn’t have the notch on the face. I’m just interested that it has the sear hook intact.
For the buy it now price, you could buy a couple of nicely setup BCM or Colt rifles. Seriously now…
Nice rifle, But as was already pointed out, one may need to wait a decade or so for the prices to be a little more reasonable…I also noticed the weight…9.45lbs…My M1Garand dosen’t weigh much more than that, I’ll stick with my pencil barreled AR, with a loaded 30rnd mag, it can’t weigh much more than 7lbs…
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That is pathetic, why do they have too stop 416 compatibility of parts, most of the gun is made in the US…deep breaths…The president of HK should be fired…I’m sorry that is annoying, why bother “Heckling Cock”. Some Leo should buy a massive order and dump the 416/417/mp7’s on the civi market, that would give them a heart attack…haha.
Nice rifle but only worth about $2500 to $2900 US, but the US dollar is losing its value… They should have released it in 14.5 inch barrel. or shorter.
well,
it does look like it screams quality.
I was interested to see all the little small changes, buffer retainer, insert over the sear? milled flat on the rear takedown.
What does the piece of metal over the rear of the trigger do?
They should have released it in 14.5 inch barrel. or shorter.
I agree I am very interested in one of these after the initial raping is over but not with that barrel. One of these in an SBR would be just the ticket.
What is that lever thing in the middle of the carrier key?
Good lord, it’s freakin’ heavy. And I thought the ACR was bad…
Quality looks top notch.
I might need one once the price drops a bit.
Are the barrels lined or Ni Cor treated? Would DD be able to provide a replacement barrel that is lined and of a lighter configuration?
Who will be first to do a detailed review/pictorial teardown of the HK and possibly side-by-side comparison it to a LWRC or other premium piston rifle?
Is the barrel nut secured with a proprietary tool, or would a spanner wrench work? I can see a cutting wheel going to the tab first thing, barrel needs to be cut down about 6 inches, firing pin safety removed/deactivated; then it will be close to being HK perfection. As it sits its almost better to pony up the $4k for a real 416 upper instead.
Can not understand the rational of buying that pos over a few noveske’s…
It’s not a “piece of shit,” and let’s not re-hash this same, old, tired piston vs. DI debate.
I have no intention on buying this thing, but does anyone have any guesses as to what the prices will stabilize to?
better question, is anybody ever going to do a comprehensive and independent torture test (this goes for all piston ARs)
The HK416 has been used for years by the most elite military units, including the US’s. Thier typical training week would exceed 3000 rounds fired through it. If it did not perform better in terms of reliability and durability than a DI ar, it would have been dropped long ago.
I’ve run a 416 upper in a 3 day Pat Rogers carbine class with no issues–not a sinlge malfunction. I can’t say the same for a Noveske that I ran in Pat’s most recent class.
Nor can I say as much for other piston ARs which I’ve witnessed. Some did run well but others did not.
I know of two people who have POFs that run very well. Those are the only two POFs that made it through Pat’s class. I’ve seen another one self destruct in day one of a Jeff Gonzales class. It was the shooter’s second POF since they replaced the first one for reliability issues.
I’ve seen mixed results with LWRC. The recent ones seem to run well. One guy in the last Pat Rogers class had one and I don’t remember it having any issues. A few years ago they tended to be erratic in QC and performance. I ran a T&E one a few years ago for almost a whole day in one of Pat’s classes (admittedly not much of a test) that had no issues. The two of the four T&E LWRCs in that class had major problems. At one time you would see lots of posts from people who had issues with LWRcs, now not nearly as frequently. The company got better financing and used better made parts as well as tweaking the design for relibility and durrability.