I like the HK roller locked 5.56 guns. They are different and sexy.
I just can’t get onboard with another proprietary mag.
I have researched and seen that there are some adapters to allow them to use AR mags and there are some mods to AR mags that may allow them to work.
Where is an HK roller lock style 5.56 using UN-modified AR mags?
I am aware that HK made one for trials back in the day I think it was a model 41 IIRC. That doesn’t help any.
TED
The only ones I know of are the HK G41 and Spanish Cetme-L. I like HK roller delayed blowback weapons but they aren’t that ergonomic. If you want something different that takes AR magazines, there’s a lot of better and more widely available options out there. Personally, I’d just get an AUG with a NATO mag stock or SCAR L and run that instead if you want something different.
G41 was manufactured as a select fire weapon and as such there are no transferable examples in the US as no semi auto versions were ever imported to be converted and all machine guns imported after the 1968 Gun Control Act are dealer sample only. The G41 went into full production, but it just wasn’t very successful as nobody in Africa was interested in an HK rifle that used NATO magazines.
There was also the HK 41, not the G41, and it was the predecessor of the HK 91 and was an early semi auto G3 variant chambered in 7.52x51. There was also a HK 43 but it was nearly identical to the HK 93 and just an early version of the semi auto HK 33.
I have never seen any kind of adapter to allow a 93-33 series to use AR magazines and you would run into the same kind of problems trying to get a 5.56 AK rifle to accept AR magazines, the rifle simply isn’t designed to use them.
Look at pictures of the G41 magazine well and you can get an idea of what was needed to make it happen. You are just going to have to accept it like the fact that AKs can’t use AR mags or get past it.
FN FNC.
Todd Bailey made a hk93 style receiver that used ar mags instead of the hk ones. Not sure if anyone still has them but you could find a gun built off one. Never tried them myself.
Edit: brethren arms(I want to say they get their parts from Todd) does seem to list their version of the guns where you can get them setup to take ar mags.
I already have Steyr AUG’s, I’ve previously owned an NFA FNC (it was my first NFA purchase actually, WAY back in the day), I do not want just something that takes AR mags but isn’t an AR.
I specifically would be interested in a roller locked 5.56 using AR mags. I’m trained on the MP5 and have owned a couple 91’s and have an appreciation for the roller locked system. I just refuse to deal with HK 5.56 proprietary mags.
TED
You may be able to find a HM Gunworks Cetme L used on Gunbroker. They are sold out from most distributors.
Here is what they look like:
That’s all well and good, but you seem to be chasing unicorns. I think the closest you are going to get is something like the reproduction Cetme that 7n6 mentioned. If somebody could easily convert a 33-93 series to accept NATO mags they would be all over the place.
But if you just aren’t willing to use HK 33/93 magazines you might have to accept that it isn’t going to happen.
Malcomar is showing off preproduction CETME-L builds - perhaps get on their mailing list
Probably as close as anyone is going to get.
https://brethrenarms.com/shop/ar15-magazine-conversion/
Bretheren arms also sells one out of the box that is 300BLK. I don’t have any experience with their stuff.
Geez, I remember something from late 80’s or 90’s called a “HARK” (?) conversion kit and or adaptor for a 93 to use AR mags…unicorn jizz indeed !
Do you remember if they worked?
I remember seeing some good stuff about them but don’t have any first hand experience. I kinda want their 10mm mp5 though. I missed the last batch that dakota tactical is working on for capital armory(they sold out before they went live on the site). Someone else was making the stuff for brethrenarms though, just can’t remember the details.
The old kits worked from memory but I thought they wouldn’t work on a gun with a paddle mag release installed. The brethren arms conversion shows it there.
HARK.
Works…but the adopter needs to be glued into it.
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Mine runs 100% using AR mags.
That’s amazing given the number of AKs manufactured as 5.56 using magazines designed for 5.56 but still can’t run reliably.
I agree that it’s surprising that it works. I’m also surprised that they didn’t sell well for under $600, so Century stopped importing them. Regarding 5.56x45 AK magazines, I’ve experienced poor reliability with the Arsenal SLR-106 series (due to overgassing instead of the magazine), but my 5.56x45 Vepr’s, Beryl, Serbian M95’s, Serbian M85, Galil and Chinese Type 84 are all 100% with their factory magazines. Heck, I even have a AK74 chambered in 5.56x45 that runs using Bulgarian waffle magazines. I think that a big reason 5.56x45 AK’s have such a poor reputation is that people use the wrong “factory” magazines in them. Just because they lock in does not mean they’ll run in the rifle reliably.
Well, at least Africa and Central and South America are allowed :lol:
