HBO’s Chernobyl (2019)

Watching episode one now and thus far it’s excellent. Admittedly I geek out on anything Chernobyl related so I have high hopes for this docu-series.

Also lol @ everything Soviet socialism related.

Decent collateral info for those interested

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/chernobyl-accident.aspx

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Wife was actually interested in it.

Is it about how bad and crazy things got, how people got screwed and it was covered up?

I watched. Fascinating.

How much is dramatized, and how much is documentary-ish?

The problem with shows like this is that one watches the show and thinks they know what actually happened.

That I’m going to research more on but if nothing else at it’s core it’s man suffering because of hubris which is made all the more amusing thanks to soviet idealism.

Muh act of god, Muh destroyer of worlds, but set in the context of haphazard Russian state bumbling and ego.

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On the same note, one of the better documentaries I have watched on Chernobyl…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjOJlHULsaM&t=4s

A trailer for the HBO series…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8

Yeah… been there done that… literally.

My Dad was supposed to be part one of the military reservists who were pulling security duty for the May Day parade in Kiev. He had to bribe his way out of it. A few months late, as a Captain in the Soviet AF and an engineer he was ordered to report to Chernobyl, bribed his way out again.

Not sure how much I want to relive this. It took me years and a move to the US to feel safe walking on grass. I remember watching kids play in piles of autumn eaves and think “yup, they are gonna die soon” not a normal thought for a 7 or 8 year old.

Agreed. Best documentary I have seen thus far.

was going to come here write about this :slight_smile: sat down to watch it last night so far very good

have read watched a few documentaries on them some with interviews of some of the survivors that were there that was done some time ago so not sure if they are dead now

going to have to watch the link to this other one

intriguing stuff since the mindset is so radically different and the arrogance of the main guy in charge from real interviews and of course the state and party shows how the brainwashing was so deep and wide etc… and is still going on
for sure a who you are is the soviet way but then the who you are gets you killed or put to hard labor :slight_smile:
our country its the who gets you there and then you become teflon where nothing ever happens

that youtube link here did not know how much the French denied anything ! but does not surprise me of the French and their idiocy

I remember that. We lived an 8hr/375 mile drive from there.

My parents used to have chickens and a greenhouse. Remember them talking about possibly stopping using both. I was 6-7 at the time. Don’t mind watching it though it was so long ago that whole parts l of my life doesn’t seem real. Even thinking back every once in a while it feels like I’m remembering a movie I saw a long time ago

It’s just odd to think back at that time. I should have been playing Cowboys and Indians, but instead I was recreating the radiation detectors I would see the soldiers using on the news out of toilet paper tubes. Like what kind of messed up kid does that? lol I am sure I will end up watching the HBO mini series once I read all the reviews. Just don’t want to get pissed if it is inaccurate, so I will lay it finish, then take a look.

I don’t have HBO so I can’t watch it, but let us know if they talk about how many people were affected. They put out so many conflicting numbers that I don’t think anyone knows the truth.

It is already listed on NetFlix, but you will need to wait for it to be released on DVD or streaming first.

No one will even know the truth. The only numbers they have are those who died as a result of direct exposure on site during and immediately after the accident. That is the number the USSR used to show how “it wasn’t that bad”

Most were effected by the release of Iodine-131, Caesium-137 and Strontium-90. Unless they can trace the specific isotope of Iodine to every thyroid cancer patient we will never really know. My cousin was a toddler when it happened and also in Kiev. Several years ago she had to have thyroid surgery. Sure we can say it was because of Chernobyl, but there is no way to prove, at this time if it was Chernobyl or some other environmental factor.

They would have to do the same isotope testing for Caesium in people with soft tissue and digestive track cancers. Leukemia and bone cancer for Strontium. I don’t think anyone has the money to examine all of that, even in the limited area where those isotopes were deposited in quantities which increase risk.

It is quite interesting, the after effects. There’s still ongoing research into it because no one’s quite sure of the long-term effects, due in large part to the fact that no one really has an accurate picture of what and how much fallout was released. Even if you had full access to the USSR’s documents on it, you would have to assume that they appreciated the full scale of it at the time for their work to be really meaningful, which I don’t think they did because of shear recalcitrance/ignorance.

Anyway, I’m hooked on this mini-series.

Wow, streamed the first episode last night. I can’t imagine what the budget for this series. Hooked on this one too.

Just watched a show about Chernobyl exclusion zone. Amazing how wildlife returned and flourished despite the radiation. Many animals have radiation 100x the normal limit and yet perfectly healthy

I would wathc some of the documentaries before watching the series, just to get the facts straight first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc-vvhWXL9Q

Because they don’t live long enough for it to effect them.

No these were full grown Moose, Bears, deer, adult mise…etc…

Episode 2 off to a good start.

Also, radiation is terrifying.

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Radiation is scary? Like most of other similar attempts of man to harness nature, there is risk in tickling the dragon.

Have you read the SL-1 reactor meltdown story? That is horrifying. However, the US tragedy led to improving safety standards the world over. Even the supercritical incidents involving the Demon Core of the Manhattan Project meant that lives lost would push safety developments.

The Russians or China will sell the reactors, but well-heeled Middle Eastern countries still want the US’s nuclear safety culture. The tragedy in Chernobyl was the similarity to Three Mile Island in the US. The fact the Ukrainian operators made similar mistakes meant they were playing Russian Roulette by not learning from the mistakes of others.