I came across this and thought it was interesting. I assume it would make Hawaii similar to Puerto Rico.
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Some in Hawaii have wanted this for a very long time, this comes up every now and again. Others realize that if this happens they will be under the CHICOM’s flag or someone worse.
Hawaii is essentially a third-world country. The US Military and tourism keep them afloat.
It would be a third world country, it’s not at the moment though. But yeah, there are lots of people that want it. There are still more that either don’t or are indifferent enough not to push either way. Nothing will happen, at least not for a long time. If it did, the economy would be obliterated until China came in.
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Other than in the the Puna District, I wouldn’t say “lots”. Most are smart enough to realize what the US leaving would mean for their way of life.
There is a reason Honolulu is a big ass city, and islands like Tahiti are a bunch of grass huts.
Hawaii has always felt a lot like the third world to me. Just a lot more Starbucks and a lot more Japanese tourists.
Much like Native Americans here, Native Hawaiians are a shrinking minority there. There are many parallels to observe between the two. I’ll leave it to the thinker here to figure it out.
An awful lot of the Native Hawaiians live in squalor… is it because of lack of opportunity or perhaps something else?
Last time I was in Honolulu the wife and I was staying at the same resort Obama was meeting with other leaders at the BIO Pacific Rim Summit. City officials were literally bulldozing tent cities built by the homeless and clearing them all from the route the leaders would be taking from the airport to the resort. Keeping up with appearances and all that lol.
I couldn’t believe the difference between islands… Oahu was a shithole… every public beach we went to was trashed and full of graffiti. On Hawaii (Big Island) they were pretty much spotless.
Obama just finished visiting Alaska. The homeless issue in Anchorage AK is huge and yet they were all hauled off somewhere the day the president was in town.
Agree with both of these posts. The ‘tent cities’ which were literally entire downtown Honolulu parks filled with tents were astounding to me. Their solution? Turn the lights off so you can’t see them. ROFL Transients would just walk across 45mph 2 & 3 lane roads wherever they felt like it.
Honestly, Honolulu and most of Oahu felt like LA but more expensive and fewer kick ass cars to drool over. Maui was much nicer and a far more ‘Hawaiian experience’ as a whole. Glad we didn’t spend much time on Oahu and the lion’s share of our trip was spent on Maui. If we went back we wouldn’t even stay on Oahu unless our friend is out of town and gave us her place to stay at for free.
To the point someone made earlier about it being a 3rd world country… maybe that’s what they want. If you’ve ever been the natives are a special breed and I don’t think they would see reverting to a 3rd world country as such a negative thing. I think most are irked by our western way of thinking & living and would appreciate a step back.
How do transients survive Alaskan winters? I would have thought this was a self correcting problem.
A few years ago I was watching Alaska State Troopers on NATGEO and was shocked to learn about the number of Hawaiian gang bangers that Anchorage had. Apparently a bunch of them are shipped off to Anchorage from the Big Island (Hawaii) with the hope that they will give up their “gang lifestyle”.
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I think you are on to something here. Same with immigrants/illegal aliens from shit hole countries that invade the US or Western Europe just to turn their new home into the same shit hole they escaped from.
It’s not just the immigrants. Think of all the natural born citizens here that turn their bed into a shithole… Detroit anyone? Gary, Indiana anyone? and etc…
Ever spend time on an Indian Reservation?
All the time…
It says “casino” out front.
I know what you mean though.
This too . . .
It’s called de-evolution. I had a government teacher back in jr. high that said mankind on a whole was on a course back to tribalism. Turns out, he was right.
…the pacific will rise again…?
Whole bunches.
The Government should figure what it costs them to run the BIA for ten years, take 33% of that sum, figure out who is on the tribal rolls, give them their portion, and be done with it. Not quit that simple, but damned near.
The system as is perpetuates poverty and the welfare mentality.
Considering the way they joined the union I can’t say I would blame many of them for wanting too.
Paging Honu…
Hysterical they even bother with that. Anyone who’s ever been to the white house and monuments knows that area of DC is chock full of the homeless living in the parks surrounding our nation’s most famous buildings and monuments. Shit there’s even a few tent citys under bridges and such between downtown/foggy bottom and georgetown.