Has AR15 sales peaked out ?

A young man was discussing with two men his desire to sell his AR15 for $1000. One said that the black rifles have hit rock bottom prices. The other chimed in that AR15 prices have tanked.

No other place I know could give me a better answer than M4carbine if these men are telling it right or not. What’s your verdict ?

Thanks Sage :confused:

I would tend to agree. When Colt’s hit $1099 brand new, your getting pretty low.

Prices are low now so it’s a buyer’s market. Anyone who’s planning to buy in the next year probably should do it now or maybe during the holiday season starting Black Friday. As we know supply and demand will right themselves and prices can’t stay low forever.

Same goes with selling, it’s probably best to hold off now and see what happens next year. No doubt prices will go back up but when we don’t know unless one of us has a crystal ball.

And as we all know one good AWB2 scare would send prices through the roof…

Factor in national unemployment levels at just under 10%, many people under-employed, and the economy stagnating you have fewer people are able to afford firearms in general.

An AWB will likely send prices up again, but only if people are able to pay their bills first.

I think the recent surge to “get one before Obama takes them all away” is over, and that’s dropped prices considerably. With that said, I believe genuine AR buyers (that is to say, people wanting to buy an AR to shoot, not resell after a ban for a tidy profit) are slowly on the uptick.

Because of this, pricing is back to “normal”, or perhaps a little low of normal. Anyone hoping to get $1k out of a DPMS, Rock River, Bushmaster, Olympic, Del-Ton, or such ilk right now is delusional.

Heck I’ve even noticed some ammo prices coming down in my area, which is almost unbelievable after the last couple of years.

Gun prices are significantly down across the board, and have been dropping throughout this year, from what I can see. I agree that the short-term panic being over, plus the bad economy, are the primary culprits.

Your run of the mill basic AR are a dime a dozen now. The more specific brands like Noveske and KAC are still about the same. I bought my SR15 about 11 months ago, and they are the same price now as then.

Ammo has gone down A LOT. I can’t wait until quality brass case ammo like PMC, Prvi, ect are sub $250 shipped and 308 FMJ is around $7-8/20. At this rate maybe early next year?

I think that AR-15s are selling for reasonable prices now.

Unfortunately, if the Dims lose control of Congress in a couple of weeks there is a potential for some lame duck shenanigans. There is also talk that the Obamination is expecting to lose control of Congress and is reorganizing his cabinet to start sending out more executive orders/Tsar rulings to bypass Congress.

I think this might put some upward pressure on prices once word (rumors) get around to the gun stores.

I hope, however, that good quality guns will remain at reasonable prices and ammo will continue to drop so that more people can get good quality ARs and ammo and stop feeding into the un-reliable AR legend that low quality ARs seem to help propogate.

Pretty sure I know the threat you are talking about over on another site. If I am correct I am the one who said that they have tanked.

When you can buy good quality lowers for 65 bucks and DD lowers for just over 100, then yeah the market has really gone bad for sellers.

That reminds me, I need to order a couple lowers from Grant :smiley:

I heard about the potential for Executive orders on a radio talk show, I think it was Rush but I don’t remember for sure.

I hope that it is wrong. Attempting to “rule” by fiat is a bad idea for any country.

I hope we aren’t in the new 2nd “Golden Age” of guns that we will be remembering fondly in 20 years wishing we had enough forethought to buy 10 of those “_________”. Like we do remembering the pre-1989 and pre-1986 years now. (IF only I had been old enough to buy my own guns then:mad:)

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I knew I could count on you for some good answers.

Hey kwelz: yep, that was you I suspect. I didn’t want to jump in and take over his thread, even though I was biting my tongue, so to speak. :wink:

Time to invest, & hold on to what you’ve got if you can afford it.

AR sales are in the gutter for sure. We still sell them, but is generally BCM and DD products (sold as uppers and lowers).

As we approach the Presidential election, sales will pick up dramatically (as they always do). Then (depending on who gets elected) either fall back down OR continue like they did when Obama came into office.

Now is the time to be buying the gun, ammo, gear and mags that you have wanted (as your most likely not going to get a better deal than now). :wink:

C4

Even at the low prices, the manufacturers are still booking profits or they would not be producing!

Prices will fall further in this economy( no signs of jobs being added) because of my 1st statement ( profits) and the fact that the manufacturers are all still producing.Do not look for rising prices until a few manufacturers fall out( bankruptcy). Their are now too many rifles and parts being produced and will be for the forseeable future until some MFGR"s file bankruptcy.

Just my thoughts but I feel I am right

this is a great time to invest in metals, whether it be gold, silver, brass, lead, 7075 aluminum or 4140 chrome moly steel

I really don’t know of any manufacturer that has really cut their prices. Just the dealers that are stuck in the middle.

It is true that manufacturers are not selling as many guns, but they sell enough to not need to cut their prices.

C4

I severly doubt there will be any AWB shenanagians during the lame duck session due to the facts that:

  1. There are more than enough votes to filibuster it right now.

  2. Pro gun Rasce or Manchin will immediately fill anti-gun Byrds seat after the November election.

  3. I expect many dems who barely squeak by will not want to tempt fate further in two years.

  4. They will be busy with bigger fish, they still haven’t passed the budget. That will take up 80% of their time.

Considering we are likely entering another recession and the Republicans are at a minimum going to take the house, I expect prices to drop further in the coming year.

I stood in amazement prior to the presidential elections watching individuals almost get into fist fights over who gets to purchase the remaining two Bushmaster’s at a dealer, for the humble price of $1,800! (I will not give my business to this dealer after watching the wholesale rape he committed on his prices during this period.)

I have no sympathy though as the potential issue was there prior, and anyone concerned should have bought about 12 months prior.

Currently prices and availability of AR’s and magazines definitely make it a buyers market. Add to that the fact that ammunition is once again available, and the prices are heading down some on that also.

I was recently talking to a local dealer who does a fair share of the gun sales in this market area. His AR sales have slowed some. But during the height of the Presidential election panic buying, availability was iffy to non-existent, so it was kind of a wash for him either way. (He kept his market up the same during this period, only passing along the increase in his cost.)

We were discussing the concept that all it would take would be a mention of a new ban, or another terrorist attack within CONUS, and the panic rush would start up again.

The bottom line is if you do not currently own an AR, but are thinking of buying one, now is the time to buy!

If you’re trying to sell one and expect to get your investment back out of it, well good luck with that…

A lot of people (me included) are taking this slow time as an opportunity to upgrade their ARs from cheap-ass junk to top notch.

I saw 2 Colt 6920s go for $2500 each.