Looks like a good modular belt system. Thoughts or experiences? Pricey, but looks built to last:
The storage of the extra slack is about the only novel thing. In the era of Tegris and advanced materials, “custom webbing” means what exactly?
The storage of the extra slack is about the only novel thing. In the error of Tetris and advanced materials, “custom webbing” means what exactly?
While obviously not top-tier, Condor has been storing the excess webbing on the inside with Velcro for a few years now, so that’s not even that novel. In theory, Haley’s stitching will be better…
As I don’t have anything like that, gonna give it a try with the add ons I think make sense for me as non LE/mil. So, no frag grenade pouches and such…
I typically end of thinking “juice isn’t worth the squeeze” with HSP items, but out of that video…. I actually like the inner belt design. Still going to be thick around the waist, but I like the sewn/rolled edges.
Will, if you like the outer belt but want to try a different inner belt, AWS allows you to buy 2” and 1.5” inner belts for under $25.
Edit:
The whole Velcro storage approach is also available here (https://esstac.com/enhanced-shooters-belt-1-75/), with adjustability on both sides of the buckle for a known high-quality product at $110. I’m not ditching my RDR’s, but if I need another belt, I’ll get the Enhanced version from Esstac. I have their original belt.
And, as far as mag pouches go, Esstac seems to be the go-to for anything that doesn’t need a flap over it.
Then to address the 2” topic: What he says makes sense, but in my experience, using 1”Velcro one-wrap is more than sufficient, possibly better, and certainly cheaper.
It looks… “okay”. Kinda like the rest of their “new” product line.
I appreciate them trying to get a better proper fit with the webbing for MOLLE pouches.
The rest…looks like any other of the 101 velcro inner/out belt systems on market.
It will be interesting to see how they hold up - HSP has had some issues in the past with poor sewing quality. Which sucks, cuz I really liked their placard…
Honestly, the only “interesting” molle belts I’ve seen come on market last several years are the GBRS tigris belt and the AttakPak Reaper Gun Belt.
Outside that, I don’t really see any reason not to just get the AWS LAB belt system, or the Esstac/Blue Alpha non-molle velcro systems.
https://attackpak.com/product/reaper-gun-belt/?variant=37020574122148 Reaper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoFqoo2ywg GBRS design concept vid
And, as far as mag pouches go, Esstac seems to be the go-to for anything that doesn’t need a flap over it.
I am seriously digging Defense Mechanisms elastic pouches also - specifically the pistol mag pouches. Great with onewrap for overt belt use or EDC. Double mag pouch has enough space between mags to fit both mags without baseplates snagging on each other, unlike my previous fave, the BFG ten-speed belt pouch. Can also add bungee tabs to the DM pouches if needed.
The DM rifle pouches are a tad bit tight at the bottom, and sometimes the sewing line there makes it impossible to seat the mag fully. Otherwise, also great pouches.
The Emdom pistol mag open-top pouches are actually pretty good too, but only come in singles.
Thanx for the info. Fit wise, showed up and a no go. My pants are all 33, a few 34, so I figured the small, 32-36 would work, it’s not even close. I can’t imagine I will be the person who experiences that. Anyway, looks very well made, but now need to exchange for medium…
Sorry the fit didn’t work for you, hopefully a quick turnaround.
Jellybean, I really like Defense Mechanism’s sling, just got it a month or so ago. Wish I’d grabbed a couple pouches now.
I got to see a couple of the HSP belts in action with the instructors on the D5 carbine course I took last month, they seemed to be getting good use out of them. I was waiting on these to drop but got impatient and ordered the above mentioned Esstac enhanced shooters belt. So naturally HSP drops their belt on the day after mine arrives. My buddy waited and got one so we’ll get to see them side by side.
I think I should have waited or opted for a belt with external molle/attachement. Looping things onto the belt reduces the amount of Velcro contact significantly, I’ll have to see if this becomes an actual issue. I plan to ride this belt out, but I definitely have my eyes on HSP and GBRS belts if it actually doesn’t work for me
Not sure if it was on this site or on Reddit, but someone pointed out the AXL Eclipse. Definitely something I want to check out, and may need to revise my top suggestion that direction.
Sgt, do you use Onewrap? Seems like that keeps the Velcro connection.
Proper velcro 2 belt systems don’t need one wrap or anything to keep them connected. One wrap itself sucks as the Velcro connecting the belts themselves because it shears too easily a la the BFG CHLK belt.
No experience with the CHLK, and I won’t argue your point directly, because it makes sense.
But: If I can use an attachment that is better than bare plastic when it comes to connection to the inner belt, it makes sense.
Not yet, but thanks for making me aware of that. I’ve seen the stuff, I just didn’t know you could secure pouches with it. I may end up using that eventually but I already have some Velcro links coming that can slide over clips and loops to try out first
I have a ronin tactics belt and I’ve been happy with it. I’m also interested in looking at the AXL and defense mechanisms pouches and one of Kinetic Consulting’s dump pouches which you run in line with certain pistol/rifle pouches.
As a civilian I always try to remind myself that battle belts only serve as a convenience when training as they are not realistic in my day to day and I should focus more on conceal carry setup ups….that’s a whole other story. Honestly…I see people do pocket dumps and I have no idea how they carry all that shit.
ETA: This is my favorite everyday belt, stiff enough for carry and easily adjustable. I have 3 in difference to colors. https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/conveyor-belt-32mm
They don’t. There’s life. And there’s instagram.
I swapped from a Ronin TF to the AXL Eclipse, and much prefer the AXL. Doesn’t hurt that the AXL was substantially cheaper. The problem with the Ronin belt for me was that it was too stiff, and wore like a hula hoop on me, as I have a very small waist (~29"). The AXL has more flex, while still having great vertical structure, due to its Tegris construction. I would loved to have tried out the BFG CHLK belt, but the retention points would have ate up way too much space for me, and they still haven’t released their non-retention version, so the Eclipse it was.
Yes it is, and another thread… Battle belt is convenient for range, classes, and a quick option to put on in an emergency, not unlike having a BOB, etc. Unlikely it will be required as a civilian, seems like it’s getting more likley these days.
Obviously, from a statistical POV, we civilians should focus on CCW set ups and handgun training, which I have for 30 years or so.
To me at least, does not mean that next level of options, which are statistically far less likely, such as a battle belt, AR, ammo, and possibly BA (which I don’t own) is a bad idea per se. It falls under “better to have and not need ns need and not have” category.
I’d say again, people should train and equip in order of likelihood of it actually being a benefit in their own situation. Those civilians running around in full ninja battle rattles on ranges who have not practice drawing a pistol from concealment so many times it’s a reflex, are (statically) doing it wrong in my view.
Yes it is, and another thread… Battle belt is convenient for range, classes, and a quick option to put on in an emergency, not unlike having a BOB, etc. Unlikely it will be required as a civilian, seems like it’s getting more likley these days.
Obviously, from a statistical POV, we civilians should focus on CCW set ups and handgun training, which I have for 30 years or so.
To me at least, does not mean that next level of options, which are statistically far less likely, such as a battle belt, AR, ammo, and possibly BA (which I don’t own) is a bad idea per se. It falls under “better to have and not need ns need and not have” category.
I’d say again, people should train and equip in order of likelihood of it actually being a benefit in their own situation. Those civilians running around in full ninja battle rattles on ranges who have not practice drawing a pistol from concealment so many times it’s a reflex, are (statically) doing it wrong in my view.
+1, I have a few setup for after work IDPAish matches. I can go to work professional office and get to the range and click it on for 1-2 hours, then take it off and leave to go home. Very convenient and could be used for grab and go circumstances as well.