SF guy found strangled to death in Mali. Naval CID has brought 2 DEVGRU (ST6) guys back to the states for questioning. Very strange situation. Personal vendetta or were they up to no good and the SF dude found out?
Beat me to the punch. What I found is maybe the guys were wrestling and things went too far. Other more sinister speculation is the SEALS were doing some shady stuff and SF Sgt found out…and was silenced before he could become a liability. In any event I doubt we will know what really happened and why.
This stink bug balls. We will likely never know what happened, but I certainly hope that it’s not something criminal in nature.
Welp… that settles it then. SEALS > Rangers.
Except the guy was SF and it took 2 SEALs…
Asymmetrical warfare, biotch. 
I almost spit out my drink lol. That is awesome… Sad that a Ranger lost his life, funny comment.
Either scenario, I’d hope that kind of thing wouldn’t even be possible let alone somehow sanctioned.
If it turns out that two members of the Navy killed a member of the US Army without serious justification they need to be pounding big rocks into little rocks for the rest of their natural days. If it turns out that they were ordered to take such action the person that issued the order should spend the rest of his days pounding big rocks into little rocks and the two who carried out the orders should spend the rest of their days doing time for following an immoral order.
I don’t care how far up the “importance tier” ladder they are, some shit is just completely unacceptable no matter what.
Disagree. If it was a premeditated criminal act, shoot them. If someone ordered them to do it shoot them too. There are plenty of folks looking to kill these types. No need to worry about your own.
I certainly hope its not some nefarious criminal activity as that would bring up some serious questions that not a souks wants to ask.
Shooting is an honorable death for a soldier. Too good for them. Make gravel until you can’t lift the hammer any more then get the rope.
These particular SEALs were the top of the food chain, right up there with Delta. The thought of criminal activity is really disconcerting.
I heard on the radio this morning that Army CID turned it over to Naval CID; must’ve been a reason other than just jurisdiction over the 2 Navy guys. Maybe because they saw a need for potential prosecution?
If you recall there were two former SEALs who died of heroin overdoses working as shipping security contractors a year or two ago. Don’t think they were ex-DEVGRU but still.
Could there be a relationship between what happened to SSG Melgar in Mali and the ambush in Niger?
I’m good with that, so long as they take dirt naps if this was some purposeful criminal activity.
Yikes. Don’t even go there.
I’d venture CID turned it over to NCIS to make sure that there are no claims of malicious prosecution. Aka the Army going after Navy out of spite rather than evidence.
I agree with you and I hope they have a Special Agent Gibbs type on the case especially for this.
I once asked a Delta, who is probably in his mid 40’s by now what the difference between Seals and Delta’s were. He said: “seals get to write books about what they do, Deltas don’t!” I asked for him to specify an actual difference, he said “anyone can volunteer and try out for BUDs and be a seal, Delta are hand picked from Rangers/Green Berets by seasoned Deltas, the qualifications are classified”. This guys seriously dislikes seals, he thinks most of them are douches who announce there “seal status” every chance they get. He told me Buds training was 6 months followed by 26 week of Seal training, he said Delta training lasted 95 weeks and that’s after your 3 week airborne training, 56 week Green Beret training and passed your 6 month Q course and your not even eligible to be Green Beret until you have served a minimum of 3 years. He compared Seals to Eagle Scouts and noted that Deltas have 38 weeks of weapons training compared to the 14 weeks seals have.
If the DEVGRU guys wanted to off someone in Mali there wouldn’t be a body. Those guys when stuck in a box somewhere with each other immediately starting sharing training and it sounds like someone choked someone out for too long or the SF guy just didn’t recover from the choke out… it happens. Maybe some dumbassery, but probably just a terrible accident.
Does it matter that it was 6 and SF vs three motor pool E3s? No. If guilty, the two SEALs need to be held accountable.
As for DEVGRU, in the early years they did all sorts of illegal things. I know we like to hold them to a different standard but at the end of the day they are all human.
Some of that may have been true in the past but aside from SEALs being glory hounds and media darlings, most of that is pretty old info. CAG takes all-comers; many have never been SF or Rangers, and some are active duty Navy and Marine Corps.
The founder of the unit did some time in the federal prison:
"1990, Marcinko was sentenced to prison for twenty one months and fined $10,000 for his role in a mission that exposed security lapses at sensitive military installations and actually served 15 months of the sentence!
The charge was, “defrauding the government over the price of contractor acquisitions for hand grenades”.
Marcinko maintains that he was singled out for prosecution because of the high level of embarrassment that he caused high ranking Navy officials."