When some indig runs the rear sight of his AKM all the way up to 1000 because, obviously, it makes the bullet hit harder, you get poor marksmanship.
Seriously? :eek:
I’m glad I found this site, otherwise I would have just dismissed Arsenal AKs for being overpriced.
I don’t want to hijack the thread, but I do have one side question (since poor training has already been brought up).
Why isn’t this the first time that I’ve seen an African with a life jacket during a gun fight on dry land?
Mainly as a fetish or charm.
It’s a “life jacket”, which, obviously, means that it will save your life and your enemies bullets won’t be able to touch you.
I’m drop dead serious. Do some reading on African ritual and tribalism, things like amulets, special potions that the witch doctor made out of the hearts of your victims, etc…protect you from your enemies. (I have a fairly useless degree in anthropology.)
Things were bad back during the colonial wars of the 60’s, 70’s and Bush War and Border War in South Africa during the 80’s.
Nothing much has changed.
To add to what Master Templar stated. . .
Vets of GWOT can attest to this, native peoples spray and pray their AKs as they believe that Allah will guide their bullets to their enemies insuring their victory. No shit. Good friend and colleague of mine did some PMC work in Iraq. He had the hardest time with his IPS trainees as they insisted on removing the stocks on their AKs because it made them “too heavy”. When he would attempt to instruct and explain to them that this diminished the accuracy of their rifles they would go into the whole Allah bullshit.
In Liberia in 1996 “soldiers” broke into a warehouse. In it they found crates marked “Life Vest”. I guess someone could read English. The Liberians interpreted “Life Vest” as body armor. Nothing like giving your enemy a nice soft blaze orange square over your vitals to shoot at! 
It’s a “life jacket”, which, obviously, means that it will save your life and your enemies bullets won’t be able to touch you.
This was actually my educated guess on that, but I was hoping I was wrong. I guess I’m not.
Vets of GWOT can attest to this, native peoples spray and pray their AKs as they believe that Allah will guide their bullets to their enemies insuring their victory. No shit.
This one, I am actually aware of. A Sgt. I know told me this a while back. He also added that “unfortunately, at this point, we’ve killed all the dumb ones.” 
While I love the discussion of cultures going on here I guess it is a bit off topic. Ah well.
This thread has been dangerous. I have AR, FAL, and M-14 pattern rifles, but no AK’s. I just never warmed up to them, but now I’m considering an Arsenal.
I have stayed away from the platform mainly because the ergonics are different than the AR. I would venture to say that 90% of the rifle shooting I do is with my AR and I’ve been afraid another platform would hurt me. When I started heavily shooting my FAL I found that when I went back to my AR that I would try and rock the magazines in. I quickly got over it but it was enough to scare me into not devoting any significant time to another system (I did the same thing with my pistols years ago - now I only shoot HKs).
So to those out there with both platforms, how do you handle the transition?
It’s not something I have to be conscious of. I’ve been shooting AR’s, AK’s, HK’s, FAL’s, M14’s since the mid 80’s. Get enough trigger time on them and you should be able to just fall into the groove with what you have in your hand.
The Arsenal Inc. SGL series is the best thing going, currently.
But… cultures and their firearms ARE interesting. We (not just West, but US) are somewhat accuracy freaks. Difference between AK and AR, as things progressed.
Note different approaches to SMLE, Mauser, 1903. While the Mosin Nagant proved accurate, it was ruggedness which is what marked it. Of course it was a hybrid design and while the bolt was not simple, maintenance of it was. (Of course the Fins perfected its accuracy - amazing trigger on the 28/30 for a stock rifle). Never shot a Valmet, but they look VERY nice.
Over all, I now have trouble putting the M4 above the AK. Radically different approaches and both suitable in their own respects. And the video proves what “conventional wisdom” buys you.
Also, I didn’t take Templar’s comments in any way trying to condescend. We need to be grateful for our own history here in the US. 500 years of it.
What the video shows is that the weakest link in the chain determines it’s strength. Many gun owners see AK’s in the hands of the untrained masses and judge the performance of the platform as such. Conversely, guns like the M4 are seen in the hands of people who do what they do well. The truth is most of those people could also perform well with an AK.
This has lead many to believe that owning an AR immediately brings you into the super secret operator club, while in reality some guu in Africa wearing a life vest could probably kick your ass.
(the “your” comments are directed at no one in particular)
I was always a huge Fan of the AK .At the age of just 18 I went to the Gun store and Laid down 279.99 plus tax on a Poly- tech AKS .:eek:Brand new in the box,after that One i got the Polytech Legend underfolder in 88.for around 600.00.
Cases of ammo then was 65.00 so i shot the hell out of these weapons me and my stepdad went out every weekend.
we tested and shot great with them .after selling those two .I later picked up everything from Norinco to the Bulgarian Aks that came in under the Clinton AWB.
I have owned 14 total .I only have one now a Russian Saiga, I converted with a side folder into a AK-103 .
I love this Weapon as it will always be one of my favorites .and even with the Sub- par Sight, i can hit very well with it .it just took time to learn the weapon and how to shoot it. I always said when i got a Russian AK i wasn’t buying anymore.
The Mosin bolt has a grand total of 7 parts. (And the extractor is usually always on the bolt head, so one can it even say it strips down to 6 parts).
Is that not considered “simple?” The Mauser 98 bolt has 9 parts, and the No.4Mk1 bolt has 8.
warpig M-4, that is one kick ass AK. Really f*ing cool. Is that one of those Russian modern 7.62 polymer mags? And where did you get it? (I’ve never seen those for sale here, only the 7.62 orange bakelite ones which are pricey).