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I think if that turns out to be the case, I’ll vote independent.
First of all there is little point getting too wrapped up regarding Christie at this early stage because he may either not run or not be nominated. Second while I agree neither he nor Romney are ideal the concept of cutting off my nose to spite my face has always seemed unwise, so up to this point I haven’t done it on election day.
I fully, completely and honestly understand why he is at times deemed a RINO and sympathize with why they aren’t popular in general with many out there. Personally I’m ready for a Rand Paul at this stage, but not matter who gets the nod they will have my vote rather than the far more destructive democrat or near impossible Independent. If this simple equation hasn’t dawned on everyone after the past five painful years then we continue to deserve what we get.
I was always taught nothing and no one in life is perfect. Many of my peers here demand near perfection according to their personal standard or claim that once again they will remove themselves from the process. As much as I admire their desire to see the best possible man get the job I am profoundly disappointed at their inaction in the face of the worst possible person getting the job.
He will never run as a Democrat. His entire position of power hinges upon the fact that he can get the 35% of that state that is to blind to cast a ballot for anything but (R), and then pick up 16% of the vote in the center by being “better than the other guy” (which, if you’re even mildly conservative in NJ, it’s not difficult to do). He isn’t liberal enough for todays “Progressive Democratic Party.”
RINOs like Christie remind me of what William Howard Taft said of them in his day: “Assistant Democrats!” 
You realize that the part I bolded cuts both ways, don’t you? Hell, the last two presidential elections ought to show that when the choice on our side is pathetic that we get what we deserve as you said.
Hey, you’re free to hit the lever for whomever you like. I won’t, and I suspect that quite a few voted for their last RINO in 2012. It did us no good. The candidate doesn’t have to be perfect, and no one is suggesting that. That seems to be the accusation of the “I’ll vote for whoever is on the ticket” and the “Better hold your nose and get on board” crowd. The fact is that you can eliminate certain candidates without expecting perfection. Like no Christie or no other RINO. Plenty of others who would at least be palatable but yet aren’t perfect. Nominate one of those.
The problem is our primary system. One night for everyone, let the chips fall where they may. But that doesn’t work for the GOP establishment. Handfull of states at a time, slowly whittle away at the candidates and the remaining funding goes to the favored one. Then later primary states act like mindless morons and jump on the assinine bandwagon of “electability” (God I hate that word, even more so after 2012) and give us a seeming groundswell of support for a McCain/Romney/whatever other RINO you can name…but it ain’t real, it’s a facade. The general election results bear that out.
Lot of good that does you when you can’t protect yourself from getting carjacked.
Three Dems that need to be gotten out of our political system asap.
Reid
McCain
Christie
It’s extremely unfortunate that two of them did so well at infiltrating the right side of the aisle.
They already have. Not a snowball’s chance in hell I’d EVER vote for him. :mad:
As a resident of the occupied territory, as sad as it is to say, he is the best we could hope for.
On a national level, there is no way I will ever vote for him I’m a primary.
If the choice is him or Hillary, I pray there is a third lever that says “Kill Me Now” if there isn’t, I would have to reluctantly vote for Christi.
Ugh. Makes me nauseated.
As oldman Arlen said…“I didn’t leave the Republican party…”
-Jax
I doubt that you will ever have the opportunity. Although he does well in national opinion polls, Christi’s real estate in the GOP has taken a hit in the past 12 months. I don’t see him winning a GOP primary.
In my opinion, there is no friggin way he will win in the primaries.
Just to clarify, NJ fuel is so much cheaper because it is refined less than other states’ fuel. Read “dirtier”.
Harley Davidson published this years ago while trying to figure why their bikes had so many fuel/drive ability issues in NJ and not in neighboring states.
Change your fuel filter and get fuel injector cleaner more often. Some cars more sensitive to it than others.
Was in car business (service) for 14 years in jersey and had access to all the manufacturer’s tech notes during that time (GM, Chrysler, Benz and Isuzu along with contacts and acquaintances at other dealers)
Just so you know why, no great work by som pol, just less restrictions on how clean the fuel has to be to be sold in NJ…
He would surely guarantee my THIRD STRAIGHT VOTE for the Constitution Party candidate… :rolleyes:
Ah, Virgil Goode. Now there is a man with principle. How is that Patriot Act working for you?:bad:
Thanks for the extra clarification. Lived here the much better part of my 44 years, with roughly 9 of them in next door PA, and this is the first I’ve ever heard that. Also have never had an issue with clogged fuel filters or injectors except for when I lived in…here it comes…PA. Reads “Pennsylvania”.
One time I was told that the reason Wawa gas is cheaper is that it is less refined, however they are based in and also sell in PA as you likely know having lived here. Beyond that never had a mechanic, many of who I call friends, that worked on my car warn me of this issue or suggest I should consider it via regular filter replacements because I live in NJ. Again that reads “Never”.
And why is a long time mechanic getting his information from a motorcycle magazine?
So I or someone else used low has prices in NJ to endorse Christie? Why would any idiot do that when NJ gas prices have always been cheaper?
Safety,
WaWa gas is cheaper because of their business model. They reduce the profit margin on fuel in order to have more people stop there and go into the store to purchase snacks/food/drinks which is where they make all their money.
Its similar to how electronics stores work. For instance, Best Buy makes almost no money from the sale of computers/laptops, but they make close to 500% profit on the accessories. A laptop bag that sells for $65 has a cost of about $15 to Best Buy.
I drag race and fuel is a big component of engine performance. My tuner/engine builder has heard the same thing about NJ fuels being shitty in comparison to the other states. We tested this a few years ago by running my car on the Dyno with NJ Sunoco '94 and Sunoco '94 from Florida (left over from a trip to race at Bradenton Motors Ports) and there was no difference in power from the fuels from two different states. Also, the engines from their customers who live in other states do not show any less fouling on the valves/pistons/combustion chamber than engines which run on fuels from NJ. I don’t think there is truth to this rumor. If it is true, it has no influence on performance or engine longevity. Granted this was not a survey of many engines, maybe 5 to 10 in all as most customers use race fuels with 104-116 leaded octane ratings.
About as well as President Romney could expect! :o
Same here. Living in NJ, he’s the closest to a “best” candidate I’ve seen in some time. Considering our last governor’s (John Corzine) very last act was to institute a 30 day waiting period between handgun purchases, from my perspective, Christie is not that bad. Also, look what Corzine turned out to be…rat bastard! Looking at the laws that Christie signed vs. what he was presented with, I’m not too upset. It could have been A LOT worse.
Is Christie ever going to embrace the far right of the Republican party, no way. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn’t either. NJ is not a far right Republican state. He’s got a realistic shot as a presidential candidate…more so than Romney had. How on Earth was Romney the Republican pick, I’ll never know. Unfortunately, unless the Republicans offer up a candidate that is palatable to the independent voters, I think the Repub’s are going to loose again. Maybe it’s me, but some of the issues that the Repub’s decide to battle on (gay rights, abortion, etc.) are playing to a smaller and smaller segment of the country and are loosing battles to take on.
Do I think Christie is the ultimate candidate for the 2016 Presidential race, no I don’t. Having said that, the pickings are few and far between to find a Republican that plays well to the masses. Romney did not have the broader appeal. Frankly, I didn’t/couldn’t in good conscience vote for him. I voted Libertarian.