Hi, I have recenlty baught an glock 19 and it’s an great gun. I have allready tested it on the range. I want to use it as an sd gun also but I am from austria and my country jhp bullets (with lead core) are prohibited. It would be possible to use full lead hp, copper hps, sjhps and Pre fragemented rounds like the glaser safty slug. Some specialty rounds like the federal efmj, corbon powerball and corbon dpx would be available. Which of these loads would you recomend?
I see. Thx for the answer. I am also the opineon that the dpx rounds would be the best choice. The powerball concept sounds als intersting, but I think the dpx rounds would be better.
ps. What do you think about the EFMJ from federal?
EFMJ is ok…it often gives inconsistent results in tests that I’ve seen and is very velocity dependant…if DPX is a legal, available option, there’s no point using EFMJ…a well-designed actual hollowpoint is almost always going to give better and more consistent performance than a round like EFMJ or Pow’rball…
EFMJ was designed for places like the US state of New Jersey, where all hollowpoints, regardless of material, are banned from carry…the DPX round would not be legal to carry in New Jersey, so they have to use something like EFMJ.
In Austria, is sounds like you have a way around the law if the bullet is not a jacketed lead projectile…if the DPX is legal, it’s your best bet because its not really a compromise…it is a hollowpoint, just one that doesn’t use regular JHP construction.
@Jim from Houston. Yes, that’s an odd law. In fact only Jackted Hollow Points are prohibited, it would be no problem to use full copper or lead hallow points. And even the “evil” Jhps are not totally prohibited. Since 2008 it is possible to buy the evil jhps with an special permition. I am not an aproved hunter so I can’t get these stuff. But the dpx rounds will work fine for me.
Well, then you’re all set…the DPX would be a good choice even if you could choose any ammo you wanted…you’re not really giving anything up…even here in Texas, where we can use whatever ammo we please, a Glock 19 loaded with DPX would be a very popular choice.
I see thx for your info. I will check if I can find some infos about the terminal performance of the first defense rounds. I have also found another interesting defense load, the former hirtenberger now fiocchi emb. These rounds are the quite cheap at my local gunstore… Much cheaper than the corbon dpx, federal efmj… and the emb conzept sounds intersting. mayby I will buy some.
Thx for the Infos. If that is the case I will order the law enforcment version. I have found an good source for the efmj. I will test the rounds and if I my pistol likes them I will use them as my main defense load.
iceman, get the DPX regardless of the cost. If this is ammo that you will stake your safety and the safety of your family on, do not skimp on performance.
Corbon DPX is proven both in the lab and in the real world with defensive shootings from police and private citizens here in the US.
Alpha Sierra Yes I haven’t ceased my search for an good importer for the dpx roud. If find one I will get the dpx rounds. I like the copper bullet concept.
Simply join a local sport shooting club and get a “Schützenpaß”. There is a shooting club in Kärnten which offers defense oriented IDPA.
Voila- no restrictions on ammo anymore. The problem with expensive defense ammo is that you should at least fire 200 rds. for function testing in a pistol. So either invest 200,-
Euro or choose a revolver … guess NOT in Glock country!
The best “legal for all, relatively cheap and easy to get” ammo in Austria is the Expansion Mono Block (EMB) now loaded by Fiocchi. Just take care to get the well expanding
5g, not the castrated 6g version. It was developed by Hirtenberger for Glock pistols, has a feeding friendly profile and is used as a limited penetration round by our police
SWAT teams (COBRA). I would not want to argue with a judge why I used another hollowpoint design than our police in a potential defense case…