Going to order a 10.5-11.5 upper by monday--help me kit it out.

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Hey guys,

I am ordering a new upper for my M16 as a Christmas gift to myself for working my butt off this year. I need some advice on how to kit it out.

This is going to be run full auto. I have a later model AAC 416 suppressor and FS I am going to put on it. Other than that I need advice.

I will probably put a rail system on it. However I don’t run a VFG or anything like that. I will just run an X300 out on the side or maybe at 12 O’clock.

Help me pick it out. I am only looking for DI guns–if I don’t get a DI I know I will pick up another 10.5 416.

I want advice on everything. What is the best setup for hard use (ie Suppressed and full auto).

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BCM/URX 11.5, mod 4 ch, KAC micro rear, optic of your choosing.

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Noveske N4 upper.

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Oly Arms.

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11.5" BCM BHF, 10" DD Lite rail, GF Mod 3, Troy sights, Aim Point in LaRue mount.

Atleast that’s what I did. Runs like a champ both unsuppressed and suppressed

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Just an interested observer, in the process of building his own heavy use SBR.

I’m going with a Noveske barrel, just to get the double-chrome lining. Perhaps that be of even more value in a full-auto weapon?

Congrats on having a busy and hopefully profitable year, counselor.

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Smoking deal on uppers here:

http://www.smartgunner.com/DanielDefenseLiteURG.aspx

I’ve run almost 2,000 rounds through my 11.5" in the last 3 weeks, mostly full auto. Not a single feeding problem, and I’ve used 7 different kinds of ammo. I have a 2nd upper configured the same that I plan to run suppressed with a Gemtech HALO once the BC 2.0 comes out.

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Fail Zero M4 Upper
Fail Zero Charging Handle with PRI Flat Latch
LMT Enhanced Bolt Carrier (Maybe send it in to Robar for NP3 coating)
LMT Enhanced Bolt
Centurion Arms 11.5’’ Barrel (Or BCM, and try to get one with a small gas port. .060’'?)
KAC QDSS-NT4 + Triple Tap (Or SureFire 212, and Muzzle Brake)
KAC Micro 200-600m Rear BUIS
KAC M4 BUIS
KAC URX II Mid
KAC Mk .12 Gas Block, or Shaved down front sight tower.
Aimpoint M3 in super low profile mount, or Mini-ACOG (Green)
Surefire Flashlight in Gear Sector or KAC mount.
AN/PEQ-15, or Laser Devices OTAL-A.

Profit.

:slight_smile:

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Buy this upper from Grant:

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=65153

I have this upper and really like it. The KAC rear for free is sweet

I would put MOE handguards and a Mount N Slot scout light mount and SF scout on it. Or a MOE rail and you X300.

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I was thinking about the Noveske 10.5 with switchblock. It seems like a pretty good setup. Very suppressor friendly and heavy duty chrome lining. Do you think this gains me anything over a std BCM 11.5 inch setup?

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BCM, DD, or Centurion 11.5"
DD 10.0 Lite or Mk18RIS2. If you want a slick rail, the VTAC TRX Extreme.
LMT Enhanced Carrier is worth a look
BCM Gunfighter Mod4 with RTV job, and drilled gas escape hole

Aimpoint T1 on LT/ADM/DD/KAC mount.
Whichever rear BUIS you prefer.
If you’re happy with a fixed front sight, I’d look at a DD Fixed front directly behind the X300.

If you can snag a barrel without a gas port drilled, that would probably be ideal. Send it to ADCO, have them handle that, and you should be able to run it with reduced volume in a dedicated suppressed setup.

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Sounds like the Noveske would be awesome for you. Reilability with and w/o your can.

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Absolutely, especially if you’re trying to control the cyclic rate on full auto with the can attached.

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Things were simpler back when I had my 416 upper! But I think I will get the Noveske.

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I’d go with Centurion, just because of the tapered bore, and because it’s a smaller company.

I like Noveske though, I’d just try to talk Monty into a custom gas port. Lol. :slight_smile:

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I would put a Vltor A5 buffer system on it. See Robb’s posts…

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Reasons I like Noveske:

I have an N4 switchblock recce. The switchblock is nice - helps me not get gassed when I’m canned. :smiley:

I realize you were referring to the N4 series, but I also have a Noveske w/ SS barrel - purchased before N4’s debut (like that was the only “Noveske” in those days). The stainless barrels feature polygonal rifling and chronograph testing revealed that these barrels frequently produce velocities more comparable to a std rifled bbl 2" longer (IIRC they were using LMT uppers as a comparison). Its not a large consideration, but MV is a often considered a downside to SBRs.

I would personally like to get a 12.5" Crusader w/ switchblock.

Yeah, Go Noveske!

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What does this mean? :confused:

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Its a DYI gasbuster charging handle mod on a BCM gunfighter CH. Helps keep the gas out of your face when shooting a suppressed DI AR/M-16.

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Have you considered Grant’s 10.5" setup on his SBR? All the details are in his thread “Best Suppressed SBR Ever?”
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=33743