Dunno if this is going to help or not, but I owned a Glock SF at one time. It blew up on me twice using standard milsurp 230 gr FMJ ammo out of two separate lot #s. So now you know what I think about Glocks. Someone else on here already said it though, if it fits, swings, and points right for you, get it. if you have a range attached to the gunshop and can try it out before the buy, 10x better. Currently own a S&W 625 JM that has been slightly modified, but it is still a bit bulky (good for trail/ pack hunting). I am going to a shop this weekend to go look at the new Springfield XDS and may trade a long gun for it. I did own a Springfield XD in 5" Tactical, .45 ACP, but it was too big to CCW and just didn’t shoot it that much any more, so I traded it straight up for a NIB Tikka T3 Lite SS in .30-06 (pretty good deal I think). Good luck and stay safe.
A video made by Sprinfield touting how great it is, Hmmmm
My Gen3 G23 never ejects brass anywhere but 3:30, same with my 19
Did you post a thread about it? Link?
What did Glock say when you sent it in?
How old was the mil surplus 45acp, WW2, Vietnam, Korea. Miltary switched to the M9 around 1985.
Very 1st case of a Glock 45acp failure I’ve heard of.
Since you wish to play detective because you are obviously a Glock lover and I did not say whether I hated them or not, here is what you asked for. The milsurp ammo was headstamped 80 and 85 respectively. If this is the first time that you have heard of this happening, obviously you have not paid much attention. This is the first time I posted in this forum about my Glock blowing up on me and no Glock corporate will not state that it is an inherent problem with some of their models. Of which, the slide does not close completely when chambered, there by creating a micro-gap between the base of the bolt face and the case head of the round. What happens at that point when squeezing the trigger causes the pressures in the chamber to increase rapidly and violently (more so than normal), with the slide open a micro fracture, the pressures blow out the magazine well and ejection port. This is what is supposed to happen during a catastrophic malfunction and this is also another reason why you don’t tea-cup an automatic. Your Glock 19, 21, and 23 may behave differently than the other Glocks primarily due to frame size and cartridge. I was in the military from 1986 until retiring in 2009 and was not issued a M9 Beretta until 1991, after the Gulf War. I know this because I carried a 1911 in the 1st Gulf War and again in 2003-2004, because I could. Any other questions, comments, or complaints about my previous post?
I like all guns and am intersted in problems I don’t know of, it’s called
learning. The reason for a forum.
Just that surplus ammo had no part in the problem with your Glock,
mentioning it was misleading to me at least since you knew it was a
malfunction of the pistol.
Thank you for your military service.
To answer the OP:
In my opinion, between the Glock and the XD, I prefer the Glock’s bore axis and lack of grip safety.
I own and carry a G19 now, but this does not make me a Glock fanboy.
I would carry another handgun if I found it to be superior.
YMMV
Well everyone seems to trust Magpul’s videos - the testing seems real to me - I don’t see any undue editing. It was enough to impress me to give one a try and I’m glad I did. It’s the only .45 I’ll shoot besides a good 1911.
What is it with the grip safety? I always hear people complaining about the grip safety - how many 1911 grip safety issues have been reported in the 100+ years since its introduction? While I agree with the K.I.S.S. principle, I see no problems with a grip safety. If you hold your firearm properly, then it’s irrelevant. It will, however, keep your cat from accidentally shooting you when you leave your weapon around with one in the chamber. Not to mention, it’s an added safety measure against a loose strand of nylon or gear snagging your trigger while holstering.
It’s a superfluous part that requires you to hold a firearm in a particular way in order to make said firearm operate.
I think you’ll find that the great John Browning did not originally design his 1911 with one, it was added later on request of the end user - for instance the Browning High Power has none, and IIRC he considered that handgun to be more advanced.
To your next point: my cat never has access to the trigger of my firearm, loaded or unloaded. If it’s not on my belt, it’s in my Gunvault with the door closed.
This, of course, is to keep it out of the hands of my children rather than my animals, but the thought process follows.
Thirdly, and this is a rare occurance - but has happened recently to a civilian shooter in a known and documented instance using a 1911, if your hands are injured to the point where you cannot depress the grip safety, you may as well be disarmed.
Without one, I can still fire my Glock (it may stovepipe but it will fire).
Lastly, if you are having issues with loose strands or material interfering with your holstering, I advise you to practice more with your holster and/or check your clothing/gear for loose fibers and remove them.
Holstering a handgun is not best done fast and without looking, like a katana.
JMHO, YMMV
I have the inverse - I own a G21 (among other Glocks) and recently put several hundred through a friends XDM .45. I’ve had the G21 for over 20 years and so have a fair amount of time with and rounds through it. Cant remember any problems other than with some old Federal Hi Shok HP’s that crash into the feed ramp once in awhile; other than those, it eats everything i’ve run through it (mainly cheap hardball).
However, I find that I’m able to shoot much better with my friends XDM .45, even though I have only a fraction of the time with it. Same ammo, same day, same shooter: ragged holes with the XDM vs “buckshot” patterns with the G21. I guess you would say that, for me, the G21 is “combat accurate” and the XDM is “bullseye.”
Don’t care to over think it, perhaps it’s as simple as the G21 frame being too big and chunky to get a good grip on (my EDC is a G26) vs the inarguably more ergo XDM.
All that said, I’ll keep the G21 until it wears out, then think about a different .45. 