I installed a 3.5lb connector on a G19 for a local guy and it felt like crap. The take up on the trigger was horrible…I could actually feel the mechanics of the movement(s) as took up the slack. I took it back apart, wiped everything down and put it all back together but it still felt like crap.
Then I put his original connector back in and it felt great; smooth and consistent. Then I installed the 3.5 in my G32 and it felt like crap as well.
What’s going on with this thing and has anyone ever had it happened before? He’s going to run the regular connector for now but what am I missing here? I’m pretty sure it’s a GLOCK connector and I’m pretty sure it’s brand new.
It lightens the “pull” by adding more “creep”. It contacts at a different angle, which is easier to pull, but it pulls longer. It sucks.
Anyone who alters anything mechanical on a Glock should have their head examined. Leave it mechanically as it came from the box, thats the way it works best;)
When all else fails, there is Jeff's rules for Glock owners :D :
“Jeff’s Rules for Glock Owners”
I heard a wise woman once say: “It’s in a man’s blood to tinker with things”.
I think it’s in most of our blood to thinker with things in an attempt to make them better.
Glocks are one of those things in life that come “perfect” from the factory…So if you have a Glock follow these simple rules…AND DON’T MESS WITH YOUR GLOCK!!!
Jeff’s rules for new Glock owners:
Get a Glock
Get a set of quality sights for it (ie. Henie, Straight 8’s, XS Big Dot, Trijicon, etc).
Don’t mess with anything else on the pistol.
Get PLENTY of ammo.
Shoot the heck out of your Glock.
Change the mag springs as needed and change the recoil spring with a factory recoil spring assemtly ($3 from Glock) every 5,000 rounds or so. Also change out the trigger return spring when you change out the recoil spring assembly.
That is everything you need to know about Glocks.
Someone will be along shortly to tell me I have no idea what I’m talking about, and chances are they don’t even own a Glock.
I hear what you guys are saying and under normal circumstances I would agree with you (all of my GLOCKs are bone stock). But this guy owns a G34 and a G19 and he wants the same connectors in both guns for consistency reasons. So it was either a 5lb in the G34 or a 3.5lb in the G19. One way or another he wanted me to swap a connector and since he’s an accomplished 1911 guy he’s used to the lighter trigger pulls.
Like I said I’m pretty sure (99%) that this is a GLOCK 3.5lb connector because it has that little minus sign marking on it but I can’t figure out why it’s so freaking rough.
What’s else is different between the G34/35 and other models besides the 3.5lb connector? Are any of the springs different?
Given your description of how the action felt, I doubt you have a genuine Glock part. The minus connector has a bit more creep due to the engineering of how the part works, but you shouldn’t have any grinding, etc. Bet you have a Scherer or other POS aftermarket part. Has anybody been at work in your gun with a Dremel or other “gunsmithing”?
Nothing inside the frame - as far as mechanicals go - are different from the G34/35 to the G17/G22, G19/G23 except the ejectors.
As previously stated, the angles on the connectors are different between the 3.5 and the 5.
I would be willing to bet it’s an aftermarket connector.
What’s the condition of the trigger spring?
You could try swapping the connectors - put the one from the G34 into the G19 and put this “new” connector into the G34 and see if it does the same thing but since you already put it in your Glock and got the same feeling you know it’s the connector.
As Marc stated it was an attempt to have the same trigger in both my Glocks (G19 & G34).
I originally did not like the G34 stock trigger, but having shot my Hilton tuned 1911 (4#) for the past six months I’ve grown used to them and now actually prefer 4# triggers. It’s my understanding that a stock 3.5# connector provides a 4# trigger pull when used with standard (Stock) Glock springs.
While I agree in principal to Jeff’s “Rules for Glock Owners”, I don’t see a problem swapping factory Glock parts for factory Glock parts. As a matter of fact several of the finest shooters I have ever met use factory 3.5# connectors in all their Glocks.
To me it was just an attempt to have the same exact trigger in both my Glocks for the added familiarization and proficiency.
My guess is it was just a bad Glock part or the dealer sold me aftermarket. I have sense located a known to be factory connector (It came out of my old G34) and will try this again.
I’ve read about many different experiences with factory Glock connectors. I’ve seen where some prefer one aftermarket type or another because Glock doesn’t seem to QC their connectors very well. If that is the truth or there are some crooked dealers that sell aftermarket connectors as OEM, I don’t think we’ll know until Glock marks their parts with something more than a plus or minus sign.
Anyway, the grinding feeling may be a result of a new part matched with worn parts and the surfaces are uneven. Or the new part may need a bit of polishing, see rant above.
As for the view that a Glock needs nothing more than a good set of night sights, well that’s one view. I don’t agree. Personally, I think the Glock has more than enough reliability to mess with it a bit to squeeze out some accuracy, ie retrofitting with an Bar Sto barrel. Improving the trigger via some reputable methods, the connector switch is the simplest but is most subject to opinion. And of all things, it appears that there is an aftermarket slide lock that makes the barrel lock up more consitant and contributes to accuracy.
Of course, if you’re of the opinion that a handgun should be like an AK, abused and reliable anyway, then leave the Glock stock. But if you actually clean your gun every 1000 rounds or so, you have some room to tweak.
I have seen venders try to pass off Scherer connectors for factory Glock. Not that Scherer’s are junk but some are sub-standard. Here is a pic of several differant connectors. Also a guy on eBay sells some VERY old stock factory connectors and some of them are not real good even though they are Glock. Just about all use the “-” on the connector.
Nothing wrong with installing a 3.5 connector. It purely a personal choice. Some like it some dont. If done correctly using a Glock factory part, it does not effect reliablity at all. I use one in m G19. I also like to change out the guide rod to something more durable (tungstun, SS, titanium), which will not effect reliablity what so ever! Period
Everything else leave it stock, unless of coarse, its a range toy or a IPSC/IDPA gun. If thats the case I like to plug and play with different spring weights to get the trigger and the action were you like it.
Nothing wrong with installing a 3.5lb connector, and changing out your guide rod. Or installing a extended slide stop lever, for that matter. Other then that your absolutely correct.
There’s a bazillion threads on this topic over at GLOCKTALK. Check them out. There’s also a simple polishing job that can be performed to smooth things up. if it’s still crap then you either have a bad connector or another bad stock part that only rears it’s ugly head when the 3.5 connector is installed.
In my latest Glock Armorer Course we were told by the Glock rep that Glock is no longer selling the 3.5 connector, they wil only be offered in the Glock 34/35 models. If you can find the factory connectors, snag them they are only going to be harder to find in the future. I run them in all my Glocks (26, 2 19’s, 17 & 34) with no problems whatsoever and only makes them easier to shoot accurately.
