I have 2 LCR’s and they are sweeeeet shooters! Just like my glocks, they are gtg right out of the box.
Edit: I have tried pocketing the PM9 and its a no-go for me. Unless its tiny, like a Keltec/LCP, it wont draw for shit for me out of a pocket. The Sunbs are much smoother to draw and dont have to worry about getting the rear of the slide hung on the pocket edge. Just my experience…
My experience as well. I tried off and on for a couple of years to find a way to make the PM9 work as a pocket gun to replace my 642s as weakside pocket backup gun. Ran into exactly the same issue as Drew with the rear of the slide catching on the pocket edge fouling the draw. Tried various holsters; nothing helped. Any other 9mm with an even somewhat square rear slide profile will likely cause the same problem.
Perhaps the PM9 is too small and too big. It’s unnecessrily small for IWB or maybe belly band or ankle carry, but too big for pocket carry. The bigger Kahrs in 9mm (P9, CW9, TP9, T9, K9) give you more grip, longer sight radius, and arguably better reliability/durability than the PM9. I still have my PM9 and keep hoping that I’ll find a way to pocket carry it someday.
Another factor worth considering IMO: One thing not mentioned in this thread IIRC is the relative training challenge associated with a particular gun. IMO the lightweight revolver presents a relatively large training challenge with its heavy trigger, light weight, short sight radius, poor sights, somewhat heavy recoil, etc. To gain and maintain good proficiency with it will be more resource-intensive than gaining and maintaining a similar level of proficiency with a Kahr 9mm, Walther PPS 9mm, Glock 26, etc…
Agreed. One of the reasons I went with a LCP as a BUG is due to the same manual of arms from loading to clearing malfs…
This is an important issue IMO. Ideally developmenent of skills on one type of equipment with which a person trains should reinforce, and not conflict with, development of skills on another type of equipment with which a person trains. It should be taken into account if one has to train on dissimilar types of equipment.
I am now interested in this thread as well. I just came into a lump of money and have set aside ~500 bucks for a pistol purchase.
I already own a G17 and a G19. A g26 seems like a good way to round off the 9mm family. Any reason to get the j-frame over the G26? All sights are saying no.
Will a g26 fit in a comp-tacMTAC designed for a g19?
19/26 fit the same mtac.
If you have little inerest in pocket carrying the 26 it should serve you well. The 26 is my edc. It is only slightly smaller than the 19, but for me its smaller in all the right places.
Snub would be better for pocket though
Can you envision any situation where you wouldn’t be able to belt carry but a snub would allow you to be armed?
Yes, I can. In fact it is a somewhat relevant consideration, which is why I am still undecided…
However, my concern with a snub is that it would not really fit comfortably into my pocket ; that said, I have never tried it, so I might be wrong.
I have pocket carried my buddy’s LCP quite a bit and it was great. .380, however, leaves much to be desired. I have shot his a few times and could barely keep it on a pie plate at 7 yards.
I hear ya on the snub in the pants pocket thing, its snug for sure on my build. I too have an LCP for the pocket and that is where she shines. I put a CT unit on it and a 13lb wolff spring in it and it is quite manageable with a bit of range time. I kept my snubs for winter for carry in my overcoat pockets.
I only carry fmj in 380 as the round lacks the ass to dig deep in the target. I figure its always on me if I’m out of bed and it serves as my bug when I gun up with one of my 9mm Glocks.
I’ve actually switched to a low riding 2:30 position holster with a fair amount of cant for my G19 (made by brian abate of atomic dog holster who does very fine work) and ditched my 26.
that said, the 26 IS an excellent summer carry gun
I was just at their website looking at his stuff. By any chance could you post up a few pics? I would be really interested in seeing that holster.
Drew
The training aspect which is being brought to light is making me think twice on the j frame. I am a Glock guy I have 2 and have owned many others so with a mini Glock the training curve would be small unlike the j frame. So maybe even with the 26’s shortcomings it may be a better fit for me?
JP
Why not s&w 638? I never hear anything on this option.
I voted other.
I carry a G19 off duty the vast majority of the time, even in the hottest months of the summer. If I am going to get into a fight, I would prefer the G19.
I voted G26.
I carried one a couple of years ago all around New Orleans. In July during 102-107 degree heat. I saw all the sights during the day too while my wife was in her conference. Including going into places I probably shouldn’t have been carrying but they didn’t have any signs up. It sure was comforting to have something I knew could shoot well and quickly when those two punks tried to hit me up for a “dolla”. Luckily for all 3 of us a stern look and a “no” was all that came of it.
I tried it with the G19 at home before the trip but it wasn’t as “invisible” as the G26 was. Around home, I don’t worry too much as it is a fairly “permissive” environment and even if someone knows that slight bulge isn’t a cell phone, they are probably packing too and don’t say anything.
Although I was legal in NO, I didn’t want to draw any attention to myself if I didn’t have too.
I used to own a S&W 640 and I have fired a 442 and I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn from the inside with either of them. Not only that, the 442 hurt my hand, even with just 130 gr target loads. Enough that I wouldn’t want to practice with it enough to be truly proficient.
However, nothing goes into/out of a pocket holster quite like a revolver. If you can shoot it well enough to feel comfortable with it, it will most likely conceal better. I personally try to dress around my G19/26 even if I have to look a little sloppy. Heck I’m 37 and married for 11 years, what do I need to look sharp for?:jester:
ok… few quick pics here… i’d been meaning to do a mini-review of this holster. took quite a while to get this holster made, but price was very fair (actually just paid a blue gun for it) and quality is excellent. I sent brian a few pics of my glock stuffed “mexican carry” style (unloaded of course) into my waistband at the cant and height i wanted. This is what he cooked up.
teh second photo shows the behind the belt clips made by AD. They’ve well made and quite secure, but make taking the holster on and off a bit of a chore as i usually have to remove my belt to do it. I’ve put a set of comptac clips off a minotaur holster on instead.
note the little outrigger behind the holster, this allows some added flexibility as well as keeping the rearmost clip out of the way when drawing. both AD’s clips and the comptac clips allow for tucked shirt wear.
I hope the photos do justice to the compactness and tight-to body fit this holster allows.
I’ve been wearing this holster 8-15 hours a day, pretty much every day for the last 3 months. Very comfortable, very concealable. It’s as fast as anything i’ve used on the range. I do tend toward a sweep from behind draw when drawing from a concealment holster to assure a solid firing grip. So being as low and tight as it is it will feel different than a duty holster obviously, but i think with training it’s just as good, especially considering the concealment and comfort benefits of this setup.
Holy Crap man!!!
Thanks for the pics, that looks like the tightest to the body Kydex rig I have ever seen. Very intersted, may have a few more questions for you soon.
Thanks agian for the effort!
-Drew
no problem, been meaning to post a review of this thing forever.
I’d send brian pics of your gun stuffed in your waistband where you want it. top and side views. He seems to have basically molded this thing to my hip. I’ve been adapting various holsters to the 2:30 carry position. namely a raven phantom (who i suspect could also build you a holster like this) a neutral cant minotaur (not enough cant turns out) and a high noon mr softy with my G26.
the high noon was actually sort of the inpiration for this. it rides very low and is very minimalist. The downside of the mr softy being that it had only one belt attachment point, so it couldn’t’ really be relied on for having your weapon in the exact position you expected every time. it tended to set the grip of the gun basically right on your pants. not ideal for draw speed. the atomic dog on the other hand has nice positive retention, and doesn’t shift at all.
Well went to the gun store today and left with a Glock 27, fail zero coated slide and barrel, night sights. So my delima is over.
JP
Nice!
Congrats on the new pistola. How do you like that finish? What gen is it? Pics???
It’s nice. The Fail Zero slide and barrel plus the Ameriglo night sights put me over. I planned on getting a glock 26 but the 27 with the fail zero finish and night sights was only $100 more than a plane jane glock 26 so I couldn’t pass that up. I’ll post pics up later next week as it didn’t take me long to take it apart and start a trigger job and grip reduction. Right now the back strap is full of epoxy curing for 72 hours before I can grind on it 
JP