Man, what a terrible day. Yesterday I was blasting with my G19 (A Gen three with the beveled barrel hood). I shot about 300 rounds. Early on in the shooting (with Winchester white box) I had a round stuck hanging from the side of the gun port. I ignored it because my gun has gone through about 2k rounds without a jam. Later (about 200 rounds) I had a classic “stovepipe” with Atlanta arms ammo. During this the G19 was tossing brass into my face about every 10-12 shots. During this I rented a Gen II G19 from the range and blasted about 75 rounds. No problems, no brassinface with the rental.
You should not need a new recoil spring yet, not just at 2000 rnds. First thing I would check is the ejector. Make sure its not loose, bent, broke, etc.
I agree with the detail strip and clean. Wouldn’t hurt to replace the springs, they are cheap. Check the extractor. My old 2nd gen 19 had the bottom half break off and started causing the same problems your having. Easy fix.
I would look at not only the ejector but the extractor as well. Make sure it’s not chipped. It could be the extractor isn’t holding onto the case long enough for the ejector to do it’s job.
First get some good qualtiy ammo. I mean like MagTech or American Eagle/Federal or some red box Black Hills. If your gun runs on this 100%, then you’ve just figured out that it was the ammo.
Winchester White box isn’t ‘good’, Atlanta Arms reloads are VERY inconsistent.
The problem is, WWB, blazer, AA, and Monarch (steel cased) is all I run through my guns for plinking. If it requires expensive ammo to work, I don’t need it. My Glock 17, P2000 and P7 all run fine on it. BUT, I will still take your advice and try it out.
I wonder if you aren’t getting a correct grip with the finger groove frame and are occasionally limpwristing the gun because of this.
I have a 2nd generation non-fingergroove frame Glock 19 that has somewhere in the neighborhood of 25,000 rounds fired through it by me without one bobble or hiccup and I bought the gun used.
My Glock 34 and 26 pistols have the finger grooves but they don’t seem to cause problems in those frame sizes, it just seem to be a prevelant issue in the medium frame guns.
I have shot about every kind of turd 9mm ammo through the Model 19 including steel case and it just keeps chugging along.
Heck if they could make steel case ammo that was still inexpensive and actually accurate I might grow kind of fond of the stuff.
Do NOT under any circumstances put steel or aluminum cased ammo in your P7 (or crap ammo in general). Buying a $1100.00 pistol and feeding it sh!t ammo makes no sense whatsoever. I worked for HK for 9 years as a contract employee teaching people how to shoot their guns…so ask me how I know. Like gotM4 said, start with some good ammo, see if this doesn’t cure the problem.
Make sure you don’t have any crud under the extractor of your Glock. While you’re in there check it for damage as previously mentioned then check the ejector for damage as well. Also make sure the chamber area of the barrel is clean. Bore brushes do not provide the ideal fit for ensuring that the chamber is clean.
If there’s no damage to parts and quality ammo doesn’t solve your problem you might need a new extractor plunger spring.
I appreciate the advice, but it is far too late for my P7! I have been shooting everything from aluminum to steel to crap I can’t identify since 1992. My P7, now on its third re-finish couldn’t care less. Well, sort of…
At about 25,000 rounds (about 5 years ago)I sent it back to HK for a refiting. They replaced the barrel indicating that there was enough erosion in the throat area to go ahead and switch it (they said it wasn’t there yet, but it was coming). Of course, to me, the cost savings of cheap ammo outweighs the cost of having it re-barreled every 30,000 rounds. Even if I am just saving $3 a box (I am saving more than that) that is about $1800 or so bucks I save.
The funny thing? I have never broken a firing pin bushing. Although I suspect this has more to do with my habit of excessive cleanliness.
Winchester value packs as found at Wally world, are “ok”, but I wouldnt call them “good”. One of the indoor ranges here specifically bans it on their range.
Atlanta Arms is, as Gotm4 noted, inconsistent. I also find it to be quite dirty.
The range owner here hates WWB. He groans about it endlessly. But, after talking to his employees, they have made it clear it is just that he can’t match the price. Of course, he sells Atlanta Arms, which I do find to be dirty and inconsistent. But, the price of their .45 is fair, so I buy it a lot.
I don’t want to steer this off topic but out of curiosity do they do that because there is an actual problem that they can cite or is it because they want to sell their own ammunition?
I bring it up because before the price rose on the bulk packs I shot countless thousands of rounds of it without any incidents and I know some of the indoor ranges in Tulsa (near me) really push their own ammunition sales.
For the past year I’ve gone back to my Dillon presses for the majority of my round count.
They sell a lot of different ammo. No one brand. You can even bring your own. You dont have to buy ammo from them. They do have a large ziploc freezer bag hung up full of squib loads, rounds with bullets inserted backwards, a bulged barrel from a Beretta 92, blown casings…etc. All from Wally World Win. value packs.
BUT, I will still take your advice and try it out.
I have been shooting everything from aluminum to steel to crap I can’t identify since 1992. My P7, now on its third re-finish couldn’t care less. Well, sort of…
