Can we embed videos here?
If you just want to see the shooting part, go to 2:30.
I figured some of the forum members here might like to see the high speed video comparisons. The Gen 4’s constant “near malfunctions” are troubling.
I really enjoyed the buffer test video, and this one is just as good. Thank you.
Thanks for posting that link. I think the reviewer did a great review and the high speed video was very interesting. That was enough to push me over the edge and convince me to stay with the Gen 3 G19s, at least for now.
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What ammo were you shooting? Same ammo for both generations?
I think what you see in the videos is RWS 124gr. Same ammo for both. I shot RWS, WWB, Winchester 124gr NATO, Federal HST, and my own handloads through both, overall. Failures to eject in the Gen 4 with my handloads (1) and with RWS (2), so 3 failures out of 300 rounds (100 RWS, 200 handloads).
87GN - thanks for the very nice video - interesting observations on how time and use sends you back to the Gen 3
Thank you so much for the excellent review! Very informative.
I just decided today to go with the Gen 3 and was not so sure. Now I am positive that the Gen 3 is the right decision. That ejection on the Gen 4 is very troubling. Is this something that Glock has taken notice of?
I’m not saying the Gen4 is a flawed design, but I’ve returned to carrying a 3rd Gen G19 as my primary duty pistol. Just picked up a new OD version yesterday - it ran 300 rounds of mixed FMJ and JHP today flawlessly, and, I honestly believe, with greater accuracy than my Gen4.
The fact that my “travel” G19 (for OCONUS work) is a 3rd Gen just means it makes sense to carry the 3rd Gen on a daily basis.
My wife finds the Gen4 “grip reduction” to make a big difference in how she can handle the G19, so she just got herself a new primary house gun!
Regards,
Kevin
Well that nails it. The high speed video was awesome. I witnessed those same ejection patterns in my Gen 4 G17. I had cases dribbling out across my knuckles…in both directions, left and right, from a right hand hold. I had smashed cases on the ground. I had FTF, FTE, you name it. When +p ammo lands next to your right foot, there is a problem. After it broke in from 1000+ rounds it was more consistent, but never as confidence inspiring as any of the Glocks I have owned since the late 1980’s. I sold mine as I considered it unacceptable from a confidence standpoint, and I had a laundry list of engineering objections to the modifications. I did like the grip texture, but not the cheesy backstraps.
I am looking forward to the gen 5 9mm’s… Gen 3 internals, gen 4 texture, and with a backstrap like an HK, S&W, or even…Ruger…
I’ve carried a Gen 3 G19 off duty since around 2000. I trust it implicitly.
I bought a pair of Glock 19’s (managed to get consecutive serial numbered guns) in 2001 and set them aside for my kids, for when they get of age.
I was considering selling off all three of my Glock 19’s for gen 4 Glock 19’s.
The high speed video was enlightening, to say the least. I’m keeping my gen3 Glocks…
Great video and comparison/review.
dang great friggin video. With my G17 Gen 4 I also experience rounds bouncing all over the place.
Fire duty ammo through it, not weak range ammo, then post that video.
The same bitching and moaning happened when Glock came out with the previous two gens, people hate change.
RWS is a 124gr FMJ at ~1200fps, as chronographed by me (compared to 1180fps for Winchester Ranger 124gr +P). The problem is that it’s not as consistent as the HST or the Winchester Ranger. Sorry if I kicked your sacred cow.
Thank you for that, especially the high speed video. M4C members do it again!
You touched on the mag release briefly on the video, any further thoughts? In my limited time with a Gen4, I didn’t like it as compared to the Gen3, however I run Vickers on mine. Not a really fair comparison.
That one made me laugh! Thanks for the chuckle and the good video. To each their own I suppose but I have no interest in a Gen 4, your video just confirms my own experiences. If I wanted more excitement and uncertainty in my life I would go back to carrying my 1911.
I haven’t had any of these issues with my Gen 4 G19. It’s been flawless for 600 rds with various defensive and practice ammo. No reloads though.
Well done! Thanks
Very telling.
I would be curious to see the high-speed video results with duty ammo as someone else mentioned. Firing my Gen3 and Gen 4 19 side-by-side I saw Gen4 ejection with Ranger RA9B as being equivalent to Gen3 ejection with Walmart Federal 115 grain.
Regardless- the recoil spring just seems too strong. If anything it would be nice if we just had a regular single spring setup that fit the new Gen4 frames…
I do disagree on the texture and mag release. I’m still in love with those features. But that is a personal preference.
Great review, thanks for posting it.