Buy a Glock 19 3rd Gen people say. Its probably the most reliable handgun ever, people say. :rolleyes: (note my opening line sarcasm).
Two massive malfunctions in 150 rounds of M882 ball. Pistol was unfired. Spent shellcasing in the box was dated 6-22-12.
Fail. This is my 10th glock give or take. I shoot every weekend, and have been doing this professionally for a long time. I am a huge dude, so I dont limp wrist anything.
I know how you feel. I didn’t do enough research and mistakenly thought buying a gen 3 would be safe. It had really erratic ejection, although no failures like yours. I put a 30274 ejector in and it helped a lot. Its not perfect, but big difference. I may end up getting the Apex FRE eventually. It sucks having to fix a new gun…seems everything on the market has its pros and cons.
My friend and the local glock rep are going to work through this. It is more of a lesson in reputation erosion than anything else. I own a dozen other handguns I trust.
There are a lot of differing experiences reported working through Glock to get this problem fixed…everything from “sure, send it to us but no promises and you pay shipping” to “sorry about that, we can’t fix the Gen 3’s, we’ll just send you a new Gen 4”. IOW, dealing with Glock on this issue appears to be like box of chocolates.
Me, instead of screwing around with the shipping and the emailing and the waiting, I elected to just pop in a 30274 ejector and an Apex FRE. $70 later, I have a functional Glock 19. But by the time that happened, I’d already bought the Walther PPQ. The Glock now sits in the back of the safe. I’ll never buy another one.
OP- Sounds like you’re getting things squared away. When your gun is updated by GI, please report back with your results.
The balance of information on extractor/ejector changes and these types of issues is adequately documented in several other threads. Let’s keep this one about the OP’s gun and experience specifically.
Sorry to hear about your out of box Glock challenges. I would be pissed as well, but its a quick fix & pretty much proven at this point.
OP you posted the two items that have plagued the current 3rd Gen small frame Glocks, ejector & extractor. Seems you know what items to replace to fix these malfunctions, swap them out & all is good
fwiw: My 3rd 9mm Glocks all ran fine initially, but after some rounds down range, they all experienced erratic ejection patterns. Don’t know if it was the extractor spring loosing tension, extractor loosing its edge/grip, or both. Never did they not eject, just poorly & in my face from time to time. . . . That got annoying during training & high round count drills.
I did what most had in the beginning before APEX FRE solution was available, the 4th Gen ejector, non-lci extractor, non-lci bearing, even tried the HRED. . . .Mixed this with that, Some parts worked, some made brass slung at face stronger . . .
. . . in the end, All my Glocks have 30274 Ejectors in place of the 336, Non-LCI Bearing, APEX FRE, APEX Extractor Spring. . . .All run like they should now, Thanks APEX Tactical.
My G26 with Apex FRE is the only one left to test & then they will all have pretty much the same mods.
G19, when its running as it should, is a great handgun. Hate using marketing slogans, but its pretty much the perfect Do All sidearm. Hope you get those items replaced and get back to a properly running sidearm.
So is this strictly a ejector problems s not a extractor? I’ve been eyeing a 17 and. 34 but read about issues and solutions but more curious as to exact what is causing the failure IE- extractor losing grip on the rim or ejector not position right/ something wrong with it.
Hours of reading using “Glock extractor BTF ejector Apex LCI 6:00” as search terms. Apex has a thread with some theories, and there is another running thread ~100 pages long.
I made the same mistake - bought a Gen3 G19 thinking I’d avoid the issues. Turns out, after sending it in, the Gen4’s were fixable and the Gen3’s were not. Glock replaced my Gen3 with a Gen4 with all updated parts inside. It’s run perfect ever since (and I got a Gen4 at Gen3 price lol).
I am currently overseas and have been for quite a while. I have two brand new Glocks my LGS (both 3rd gen, 19 & 35) waiting to be picked up when I decide to get there. I have owned Glocks in the past (both purchased in 2005/2006, 3rd Gen) which worked great. I see a ton of these issues popping up here. What the heck is happening to Glock? Who makes a decent pistol these days (other than my SA MC Operator…great performer, but costly to keep running).
Glock = ejection/extraction issues (yeah, I know, easy fixes, but really? Should that be necessary? I get buying a new 1911 and sending it off for a reliability package, but a Glock or M&P?)
M&P = Accuracy is garbage. Spend 400-500 bucks for upgrades to make it decent…getting close to the price of another 1911.
PPQ= Yeah, great and all. But I do not see it taking hold of the duty market and having the logistic support or the previously mentioned pistols.
HK = Price? HK has always been quite proud of their products, just another example. Accurate, reliable. 4 magazines = the price of my first car. Still have to send it to Bowie to be ground upon.
FNH FNS = Not catching on at all. No aftermarket support. I always worry about CS from companies that are primarily military contract based.
Please don’t mention the XD, I will vomit profusely.
I don’t want to be “That 1911 guy”, because heaven knows they have their issues too. But is anyone making a decent out-of-the box service pistol (like Glocks early on, ala 2nd gen, early 3rd Gen)?