If you have an issue with me bring it to PM’s, keep your childish comments out of the tech forum. I was asked on the other forum what my background was since we were having a discussion on stress risers and MIM components. That magazine design is not a solid as the PMAG or L5, sorry if that hurts your feelings. It doesn’t take an engineer to figure that out 
Stick to the thread and don’t use those nasty words to discribe your thoughts about the Mags being discussed.
I don’t know Steve or Pat Rogers. I know what Steve posted but have no idea what he is trying to get across with his last post.
Now if you understand what he posted give it a go.
Seriously? Nasty words…are you 12? You don’t know who Pat Rogers is? Sorry, but I cannot take your comments seriously. My comments were based on actual results, I’ve seen and used these mags.
yah so are HK mags, spare me. pmags arent as costly and are for a fact better magazine.
I run almost every mag there is on the planet I get my hands on… Pmags have been the most soild and realiable i have run. lancer is a close second only time will tell…I have only put about 1000 rounds through them this past month.
and bullitt5172 knows of what he speaks he has seen more inside of this industry than most… when he talks i listen.
and rifle shooter i sugjest it in best intrest to tone it down a bit…
Well thats why I am reading and replying to peoples posting. But I want real facts not just some ones likes or dislikes about a product.
If one calls a product Sh**T or JUNK give some facts to back up your posting.
You have to excuse Steve’s typing, his hands are the size of a small car - it’s hard for him to hit the keys sometimes 
Magazines either run or they don’t. The Cammenga mags didn’t want to run and they were sharp. That’s all you really need to know. Stick to PMAGS and L5 mags and get a LULA loader - much better combo than the Cammenga mag.
For the record, I never called the Cammenga mags “sh*t” - there, not really a nasty word :).
Did anybody try if you can open this Cammenga mag while it’s seated in the mag-well? Just curious.
That’s a good question, I don’t remember seeing anything that would stop it from opening???
And im giving you my end of it…
bullitt5172 has seen these mags and used them with me and others
I have no love for them ther ei sno real need or use for a magazine that opens to allow more dirt grit and gunk to get blow trapped or logged in your mag i tested them in AZ, Tenn and MI in snow, dirt, sand rocks, etc.
the mags had its hicupps, it weight is an issue, also steel magazines have the nasty ablity to bend and dent and not give as well as a plastic poly etc or aluminum magazine do. steel dents…
Rik, Ill try it tomorrow but if i recall the way its seats its prevents it… ill try it though and report back… this could be fun.
Well I could not make out just what he was posting about. So you say the Cammenga mags have a sharp edge? Well did they fail to preform when being fired? Did they fall free from the magwells?
I have a bunch of P-Mags they are good but the Lancer System L5s have metal feed lips and thats a real important item to this user.
Green Tweed is a long time material Engineering Company and they are behind the Lancer L5 Mag Engineering. If they added the metal feed lips it’s because they know they need them for the real long haul or the real deal life in combat.
Now the jury is still out until I get a chance to use the Cammenga mag.
I see your point but I will disagree with the need for metal feedlips. The PMAG’s have been thoroughly tested and abused, the feedlips are tough as nails. I think L5 added metal feedlips to try and set themselves apart from Magpul - the PMAG is a hard act to follow. They are different, that doesn’t mean they are better.
I have had 0 issues with the pmags and there lips they have been run through
1ks of rounds of semi and full auto fire… to me metal feed lips are a non issue
Lancer mags seam to be a really good mag almost boring so far. except one issue with mine. caused by a bushmaster rifle that was failing to lock open and lancer is aware of this…
as for real deal life etc what is that to be exact? please advise!
beacus ei know of few that use pmags for the same reason. as of right now in many bad places.
Well it’s good to see so many people and their Companies getting into working on new products for the good old trusty ARs. A while back many thought it was the end of the AR road and now it’s wide open full speed ahead. You go the the firearm shows and it’s table after table of ARs and AR stuff. Now that good news to this AR rifleshooter.
I agree with that 100%!!
I really have nothing more to discuss with you on this subject. I started this thread and if you or others want to drag it on so be it. I am done with it.
BYE!! BYE!!
Wow, just wow. So much for being here to learn :rolleyes:
His mom called him to bed.
the idea is to learn and get feed back, I guess that is why lancer dumped a huge box of mags in my lap and said kill them and gives us feedback. and im going to run them in a state combat rifle match championship this month as well.
metal, plastic. etc… mags area disposable item get over IT when they go bad get a new one.
Steve is that you ??your hands are as big as a small car:eek: Good info Guys thanks.
what you said!!!