Kinda off point but…I kinda like the 22con. for the Bug Out Bag (I know those guys :jester:)for what it is. Its a very versatile tool that is a great addition to ones range/BOB bag…Plus my wife likes shootn it.
I’m a big fan of .22s, but I cringe every time I hear somebody say something along these lines. Can I safely replace my ASP baton with a salad fork because I can’t find anyone willing to stand still while I jab them with one?
I’m just wondering how the OP is going to be able to pay for a conversion kit and get a reasonable amount of shooting in on a $200/year budget.
The first step in any decision-making or problem-solving process is defining the problem. In this case, the problem isn’t insufficient ammo; the problem is a too-small ammo budget.
My vote: find more money somewhere. Deliver pizzas a couple of night a week, if nothing else.
BVAC is factory reloaded from a us company, you can get it at about 30¢ per round or $170 for 500 rounds. I have shot a bunch of it with zero issues. Cheaper than dirt usually has it.
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I just bought a case of Brown Bear for this very reason, and before prices get out of reach, and availability is nonexistent. Some sites are already back ordered on most of their .223/5.56.
Buy a few boxes of steel Wolf WPA(made by Barnauls) and see if your rifle likes it.
If your rifle likes it purchase more. I run alot of Wolf WPA since its $100-$150 cheaper per 1k
Hornandy make a steel case practice round. It had full power. Just clean the chamber good after firing and you won’t have problems with stuck cases.
Practice at home with basic drills as mentioned above.
Take a class or 2 to give you more to practice (also a good way to stock up on brass).
Save up and get into reloading. I get near match quality reloads (+/- .1gr) @ $.17 per round using Hornady 55gr FMJBT. I could probably drop it down to $.14 or lower if I used pulled powder and bullets.
If you are flat out looking for more trigger time, get a second job to fund it.
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- Jump on the steel case bandwagon:
Pros: $200 buys me 1K rounds.
Cons: Concerned about reliability.
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Im of the same Mindset of Kokopelli, if I’m not shooting it, i’m really not having fun. The more rounds I can send down the better. With that being said, I’ve shot alot of steel cased rounds through my BCM Mid with no problems. Wolf mostly. If you’re concerned about reliability issues, pick up a few boxes first and see if your weapon likes it. If it does, buy some more.
If you don’t want to get a second part time job to facilitate purchacing more ammuntion, you could always have a yard sale, post some things for sale on Craigslist or sell blood/plasma. Just don’t go to the range directly after selling blood :lazy2:
Collect and sell your empty brass to help defray ammo costs
Absolutely nothing wrong with steel buddy. In fact, if your rifle won’t eat it…get it fixed! In a SHTF situation, it may be all that’s available.
As for training with it, I have a simple golden rule. If I’m shooting slow/accurate fire, then I’ll shoot as normal. But if I’m flying through the mags, and really get to steam rolling, then once I finish a string of shots, I’ll either eject the chambered round until ready to shoot again. Or I’ll shoot till empty. What tends to get people in trouble with steel cased ammo is super heating the chamber due to rapid and prolonged fire. Then putting the gun on safe and leaving a round in the chamber. The polymer coating that is applied to the basic will Almost liquify during these high intensity shot strings. Then when you leave a round chambered when the chamber is damn hotter than hell it begins to cool. Then the steel case becomes freaking glued to the chamber, ala stuck casing (or ripped off)
My opinion is to go the steel case route…try several different brands to see which brand your rifle likes. My DD hated Tula, lots of stuck cases. You may have to swap out your H buffer for a regular carbine buffer. Dry fire and drill practice at home are invaluble as well.
I voted steel…if you have spare time, a second job would do alot for your shooting allowance, after family,bills… of course.
Honestly, time is as much a limiting factor as funds. I actually quit a second job just over a year ago due to time. It was mostly a hobby job, but it paid for things like guns and ammo. Now I’m trying to feed those items out of the family budget and it’s just getting tighter with ammo prices rising. I think I’m going to try the dry fire thing first. Develop a routine and run with it for a few months.
Collect it and reload it. I reload all for all my pistols and plan to branch out to my ARs. I didn’t hear it mentioned, so thought I’d throw it out there…
I use and recommend steel case wolf for the range. I have not experienced any problems other than a dud here or there every 1000 rounds or so.
When this happens, is it simply a matter of using a cleaning rod or something similar to push the stuck casing out? Or is more strenuous, or professional work needed?
I say save your money and use the ammo that you have and keep buying what little you can.
Here is why…
Quality training does not require a high round count.
You can dry fire all you want for free and then take that ammo to the range and shoot for accuracy or work on a reload drill slowly and perfectly. A crap load of rounds down range shot incorrectly is a crap load of poor training. You can do better with 50 perfect rounds down range than 300 holes all over your paper.
Good luck and remember, perfect practice makes perfect.
Who cares if your steel cased ammo is reliable? If it is just for practice, if it ftf every 100 rounds then you get to practice your malfunctions to. Make sure to clean the gun and keep good ammo in it for any serious use.
You should only shoot match ammo and hornady TAP out of an AR or you are a wanabee TOSer!
…but seriously, if your gun feeds steel case, why would you blow money on anything else for training?
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Problem with that for me is that I can’t shoot steel core ammo at my club’s indoor range. That leaves out Wolf and Tula for sure, and perhaps others. I would have to buy from the local store, and use a magnet to make sure I get ammo without a steel core. Otherwise I have to go to the outdoor range, and due to weather conditions, that’s no fun.