Hey guys, I’m going to buy myself a new upper as a graduation gift to myself. It’s going to be a BCM 16" Carbine upper. It’s one that doesnt come with a handguard so I have to get one of those too. I was looking at the midwest industries Gen II 2 piece free float handguard. I want the extended carbine to give me a little more rail real estate on it. Other than BCG and charging handle will this be all I need? Are there any special tools I need? How solid are the 2 piece handguards and does this sound like a good upper? Thanks guys, I know I’m new to this so I just wanted to get some imput so I dont do anything stupid.
that’s the same upper I bought and it is great! I put a 2 piece drop in rail in mine and went shooting, no tools needed.
edit: just seen that you are getting a free float so you would have to get the wrench to take it apart.
Works with the OEM barrel nut per Bravo Company website, but requires removal of the delta ring per the MI website. So if you are new to the game, I’d have someone install it for you.
I’ve had a couple of sets of non-free float Midwest Industries I’m happy with. Locks up tight and gave me the mono top rail I was missing with the KAC RAS.
If you are looking at additional “rail real estate,” why not go with a mid length and not worry about the free float rails that require modification? Looking at the BCM site, there aren’t any manufacturers that make a drop in carbine extended rail system that I saw. All the ones they had listed will require some technical knowledge to install to some extent.
However, MI does a good drop in rail system for the mid length gas system and doesn’t require any special tools or knowledge. You get two additional inches of rail space for generally the same price like your advice in this post:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showpost.php?p=1430573&postcount=59
For a 4-5 time a year self admitted can plinker, why not grab a BCM middy upper, drop in the MI Gen 2 handguards that require zero special tools, save about 70+ bucks as well as 3 ozs on the muzzle end and call it a day? Do you have a specific need for the extra rail spaces or will they go unused like a lot of rail space does?
As far as the need for rail space it’s due to long arms and liking the vfg as far forward as possible. If I were to go middy what’s the difference in rail space compared to what I picked? I’m fairly mechanically inclined so I’m up to a challenge but I don’t want to spend a fortune in tools for it.
Definitely go mid. 16" barrels work better with a middy gas system. If you’re looking for a two piece free float then I’d have to recommend a Centurion Arms C4. It’s a great rail system that bolts right up to the stock barrel nut. They are going to be a step up from the MI rails.
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Why not buy an upper from BCM with a rail installed? You can also get a BCG & CH at the same time and be ready to go.
Well I’m trying to keep the cost down on this one. Would I be better getting a bcm from bcm with a pre installed rail and low profile gas block?
Yes! Its doesnt cost any more than buying the parts separately and its assembled by a professional.
I think you’re better off buying the upper minus the handguard, BCG and charging handle if you want it any time soon. I haven’t seen any of the BCM uppers with pre installed handgaurds in stock for months.
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Just recently BCM had several rail/handguard mounted uppers in stock. I would recommend getting on their “notify” list for a few that you like… Cheers… Ron
Really?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-16-Mid-Length-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Centurion-p/bcm-urg-midlw-16-bfh-c4-12.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Centurion-12-p/bcm-urg-mid-16-bfh-c4-12.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-BFH-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-p/bcm-urg-mid-16%20bfh%20ddl12.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16%20bfh%20vtrx13.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-VTAC-ALPHA-p/bcm-urg-mid-16%20vtrx13.htm
Well there-ya go!
Damn, guess a lot has changed in the past month.
I would look into a Daniel Defense Omega. Its a drop in two piece free-float handguard. I have a couple on some builds, they have a slim profile which I really like and will give you the extended continuous rail that you are looking for. Slightly pricey, but well worth the price, once on they are very solid.
If you really want to save money, get a 16" middy and use MOE hand guards and shoot the rifle until you can save up for the free float tube of your choice. As you’re mechanically inclined, you’ll be able to figure out how to attach the AFG.
If you still need to stretch further, you can cut down the fsb and install a rifle length free float tube
Not all of the uppers with pre installed forends come with the option for charging handle and bcg and finding a bcg (matching bcm) is difficult.
Really? Which ones? Were they in stock? Cause the option wont be there if its OOS.
+1
The MOE guards are great and very easy to attach a light, vfg and sling attachment point… Put the savings towards ammo or an Aimpoint.
I want free floated because I want to get as much accuracy out of this thing as possible. So I’d like to stick with the FF rails. I think I’ll just see what i can get pre installed
Don’t fool yourself - you will most likely not ever notice the difference in accuracy.
ETA - dont mean to be an asshole, but unless you are a seasoned bench rest shooter using match grade ammo and match barrel shooting routinely 100+ yd shots, its just not going to be worth the cash for anything but cool factor.
Youd get much more noticeable accuracy gains from proper trigger and breathing control.