People like this always need their opening words edited out and just skip to what they really think/want that begins after the word “but”.
“People need training so they know what do do” and oh yeah, I make money off that.
Sounds great!
Let’s make folks get proper education before exercising any of their constitutional rights. Like voting. Or speech… (uhm, wait. I’d have to be educated about something before I run my mouth?). Ok, so skip that one. But voting and guns are good.
This is great. Now I know which gun store/range not to patronize when I’m in GA enjoying the exercise of my God given, Constitutionally protected rights. Lots of other non-Marxist stores to give my money to.
Frome the article;
“The owner of Eagle Gun Range in Macon, Hamp Dowling, says he is for the “Constitutional Carry Law,” but would like training to be a requirement.
“Just like anything, just like driving or doing anything else, if you don’t know how it works, you’re dangerous,” Dowling said.”
Let me guess, old Hamp Dowling has just the right training for you?
Boy some people really don’t get it.
At least in California, you don’t need some aftermarket training to drive a car. You just need to pass both written and driving tests. How you get to the ability to pass those is up to you. Most young folks get a driver’s permit and then are taught by their parents, some take formal driving school…I don’t know of some law that requires official state sanctioned training, but maybe I’m not up to speed on the requirements here.
Gets better, no training currently required.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/ga-gun-laws/
I believe I been to this range before. If I remember correctly, the owner wouldn’t allow ar-15,akm or any type of rifle that fell into that category to be shot there because he was afraid of them.
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Looks like you remember correctly.
So, the news crew finds a FUDD to talk to, what a surprise.
True. Wouldn’t surprise me if the GA news interviewed him as elated when Oconee County Sheriff Scott Berry retired.
Just to be fair, the rules say no rifles period. Pistol calibers only. Not defending said range, just sayin. Got no insight on these guys. Just read in the quotes and the range rules posted above.
Seen plenty of “gun folks” go all fuddy and chicken little over CCW/AWB. So if it’s warranted, smack away.
Check it again.
High power rifles are allowed so long as jacketed soft points are used, but no dice on AR15/AK47 rifles or pistols claiming chambering as the issue.
So I’m 100% in support of new gun owners receiving basic training beyond what is necessary to get a carry permit or even to open carry without permit, but it should NEVER be a qualifier and anyone who supports that ideas should be required to pass a test on the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and the Bill of Rights before they can offer a similar opinion again.
I don’t want somebodies daughter who just got a restraining order against her loser ex boyfriend to end up dead because she hasn’t passed her “safe carry” class yet. Sometimes you need a defensive firearm today.
But I wouldn’t be against setting aside another $25 for the cost of a carry permit that would provide expanded and standardized “safe carry, safe shooting” instruction so long as it wouldn’t make things cost prohibitive or ever be used as a condition to prevent somebody from obtaining a firearm or carry permit. This would all be “after you’ve obtained your permit and / or firearm” instruction.
This is where somebody, perhaps the NRA since they aren’t doing anything more important, need to get together and create a program that is offered everywhere just like they used to do with “hunter safety” courses. They should be free to NRA members and Life Members should be top of the list for training to become program instructors.
Since many states require an NRA Basic Handgun Safety course certificate, or similar, as “training” why not just do that and make it free? I’ve been trying to start down the path to getting an Instructor cred so I can help friends and family down the path, but they go out of their way to only offer Instructor training around here at one facility as far the hell out into “You Can’t Get There From Here” as they can make it without crossing the Mountains or going all the way to the BC or Oregon border, and once I had the creds I would happily DONATE my time only asking to be reimbursed for my costs. Safe to assume that I’m not the only one thinking this… really, this kind of thing should be a 501c3.
One of the reasons is because NOBODY in the firearms business can agree on anything, it hurts reciprocity efforts. If 12 states adhere to NRA certification then every state that does not cannot recognize the licensing of those that do. Also what if somebody fails that course, they get denied. Is that really what we want?
I know everyone wants safe shooters, but I don’t want somebody to get killed because they got denied because they couldn’t pass a test.
But other than that I agree with the main point you were making, we should standardize around something like that and make it available to everyone who buys a gun or gets a carry permit. If we can spend tax dollars on global warming requirements for your dishwasher and car, we can certainly spend some of that money on making people who are armed a little safer.
You aren’t the only one who would donate their time. People willing to help sadly isn’t the problem.
Like everything else, follow the money !
I don’t want that kind of denial either, the Founders didn’t mandate training or permits after all–after all, not everybody can be the kind of smartass I was in college where I could show up bleary-eyed with a pounding headache and turn in a perfect exam with ZERO study. I saw plenty of classmates who were as far the opposite direction as possible, putting in 80-hour weeks and knew their crap cold but as soon as you put that paper in front of 'em it was like the tranny dropped out of their powertrain.
Here in WA, there are lots of states we couldn’t get reciprocity with because we have no training requirement and our statute requires “substantially similar” qualification reqs. With how Kiddie-Diddler Bob our rumored-pederast Attorney General is aggressively looking for the slightest excuse to cut everyone from the list he can, every day I wish I had the resources to put together an initiative to make us Automatic Recognition since pretty much our standards are “warm body and clean or expunged record, and your check clears.”
What I’d really LIKE to see would be online renewal capability and once your permit’s mailed you also get a voucher for that class and an open invite to a weekend or after-hours practical workshop put on by local LE at their training range, or any public/private range willing to host additional sessions.
Maybe people should go and leave bad reviews for places like this.
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Funny thing is, we have a gunshop here (LowPriceGuns in Bellevue / LowPriceGuns . com) whose owner has gone out of his way to crap all over the 2A at every opportunity in the name of “reasonable gun ownership.” Universal BGC’s, prohibiting semiauto rifle sales under age 21, registration of SAR’s, banning 80%'s…
Piss on Kapo Jason and all our Scheissfreunden like him.