Gene splicing and manipulation on the horizon

[Hmac]

@chuckman

But they don’t, not always. I know I see docs slapping themselves on the back after delivering that 24-weeker; or, high-fiving after getting a pulse back after someone coding for an hour. It goes back to, we do it because we can, not because it’s always right; it’s a mindset thing, not a technology thing. I saw it in paramedics, and I see it in world-renowned neurosurgeons.

I know I am a knuckle-dragging troglodyte of the cro-magnon variety, but I have a pretty decent grasp of the evolution of medical technology/practice and ethics. To be certain, I am not anti-genetic engineering; but rather fully aware of both the good and the bad that can come from any technological evolution.

We don’t do it “because we can”. We do it because it might save a life. Your willingness to give up on those 24-week old infants or those beloved fathers that coded at their son’s baseball game is distressing.

[Doc_Safari]

@Hmac

We don’t do it “because we can”. We do it because it might save a life. Your willingness to give up on those 24-week old infants or those beloved fathers that coded at their son’s baseball game is distressing.

Correction: we do it because the medical profession might make money on it.

[chuckman]

@Hmac

We don’t do it “because we can”. We do it because it might save a life. Your willingness to give up on those 24-week old infants or those beloved fathers that coded at their son’s baseball game is distressing.

Maybe I’m jaded. Maybe I have seen it play out for almost 30 years. Maybe I have seen too many overzealous physicians ignore the elephant in the room that ol’ dad will never come off the vent and is status post asparagus after being coded for an hour and still telling the family “of course we can keep him alive.” I am not going to apologize that my perceptions may distress you; it’s called advocating for my patients. Likewise, you have no idea what I have gone through to save lives, nor what I am willing to do.

[Hmac]

@Doc Glockster

Correction: we do it because the medical profession might make money on it.

Most doctors I know are more than plenty busy. If money was the motivator, it would be far more cost efficient to just let those folks die so that they can go on to the next patient. Resuscitation is a huge money-loser.

[chuckman]

@Hmac

Most doctors I know are more than plenty busy. If money was the motivator, it would be far more cost efficient to just let those folks die so that they can go on to the next patient. Resuscitation is a huge money-loser.

That has been my observation. My docs would make more money if they say in the Bat Cave and read films all day; the procedures they do can actually lose money.

[Hmac]

@chuckman

Maybe I’m jaded. Maybe I have seen it play out for almost 30 years. Maybe I have seen too many overzealous physicians ignore the elephant in the room that ol’ dad will never come off the vent and is status post asparagus after being coded for an hour and still telling the family “of course we can keep him alive.” I am not going to apologize that my perceptions may distress you; it’s called advocating for my patients. Likewise, you have no idea what I have gone through to save lives, nor what I am willing to do.

If I had a way to know which ones were going to fail resuscitation and end up a vegetable, I’d let them go too. As it is, I don’t have the tools for making that prediction.

[Doc_Safari]

@Hmac

Most doctors I know are more than plenty busy. If money was the motivator, it would be far more cost efficient to just let those folks die so that they can go on to the next patient. Resuscitation is a huge money-loser.

I’m not talking about doctors. I’m talking about Big Medical Supply and Technology, Big Pharma, and multinational corporations who will own the rights to any new innovation. THOSE are the people who stand to make money. Doctors are just the retail level workers in their world.

[Hmac]

@Doc Glockster

I’m not talking about doctors. I’m talking about Big Medical Supply and Technology, Big Pharma, and multinational corporations who will own the rights to any new innovation. THOSE are the people who stand to make money. Doctors are just the retail level workers in their world.

Ah. Yes…there are some big companies out there that are looking to make big money on gene splicing and other forms of genetic manipulation. There are some companies that already are. It is really big business now, and will be more so in the future.

[scooter22]

Gray goo theory is one reason why I don’t believe in ET intelligence.

Official Kremlin Transmission

[Alex_V]

@Doc Glockster

They are not even apples and oranges, more like apples and Brave New World.

Took the words out of my mouth Doc. All I could think about was Lenina Crowne and John the Savage.