Need quick advice: I’ve HELD a PPQ - wow! But, don’t know that much about it other than internet third party.
I also have a shot at an LE priced G19 - ‘but’ Gen4. I can get it with night sights over $50 less than the PPQ.
While the PPQ has a sweet trigger, and is a bit more exotic, do folks here think it is proven enough? I also like the wt/sz of the G19.
My first plastic 9. Carry and carbine backup.
Thanks.
I would go for the Glock. Even in Gen 4. Some have had issues, but many more have not had problems. When you factor in holster selection, parts availability, spare mag price and availability, I think you will come out ahead with the Glock 19.
That is not to say a PPQ is a bad pistol, but it would not be my first choice given your options.
Whichever one you choose, practice practice practice…
Having owned both I would say they both have pros and cons to consider.
PPQ Pros:
Best trigger I have ever felt on a pistol.
Outstanding ergonomics.
Completely ambidextrous.
Easiest pistol to shoot quickly and accurately.
Cons:
Magazine prices and availability is horrendous.
I have no background in any kind of engineering but the barrel lugs and locking block on the PPQ LOOK more fragile than other semi autos I’ve owned. This is probably a moot point and more than likely means nothing
The pistol is warranted by smith and Wesson in the US I believe so I don’t know how parts availability will be long term.
Night sights are not common and I don’t like how the Meprolights and Trijicons rear sights install on the adjustable rear sight.
Glock 19 gen 4 pros:
Flattest shooting 9mm I’ve ever shot besides a sig p226 and m9
Extemely abundant supply of parts and extremely easy to service yourself.
Cons:
Ergos could be better
ejection issues still persist
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I think you should actually shoot both before you decide if you can. Holding the PPQ is great, but shooting both will give you the best feel for which one you like better.
The Glock is a fantastic gun, so you can’t go wrong with that choice, but I would personally recommend the PPQ. I have shot both guns a lot, and I would take a PPQ over the Glock any day. I think it is more accurate, has a better stock trigger, and the ergonomics are much better.
That is just my .02, and your opinion might be different. That is why you should shoot both and then decide.
Own both a PPQ, and a G19 (gen3),The G19 has alot going for it in the way of support, (holsters, parts, sights, etc) The PPQ is’nt a slouch, alot of the parts for it come from the P-99, which is a proven design. I’ve got over 2000rnds on my PPQ,with no problems,Frankly I would’nt worry about parts…you have to break something first, and honestly that’s one thing I haven’t seen alot posted about.One thing I can say about the PPQ, it dosen’t throw brass in your face like alot of the current production Glocks do. Out of the box, about all it needs are night sights. Mags however, are expensive, Sight selection is limited at present, So basically, it boils down to choosing between one with excellant support, but at present has problems with it’s ejectors, or one with expensive mags and limited support, But has no other problems, and is known to be accurate and reliable… To be fair, the ejector problem will be solved soon as soon as Apex gets their Glock ejectors out, which should render the ejector problem a moot point.But until then, you’ll have to wait like the rest of us…
I have never owned a G19 (I do own a G26) but I have shot one quite a bit. It is a very soft-shooting and controllable pistol.
I do own a PPQ. I prefer the feel of the PPQ (with the medium backstrap installed) in my hand. This is subjective, of course.
I am more accurate with the PPQ, despite the fact that the PPQ has a tiny bit more perceived recoil. I also prefer the trigger on the PPQ. To echo and reinforce what has already been said, the PPQ has the best stock trigger I have ever experienced on a striker-fired, polymer pistol. Period. The crisp pull, coupled with the absurdly short reset, are some of the reasons why I shoot it so well. Well, that and practice. 
You can’t go wrong with either choice.
Recently I had something unfortunate happen to me. I was put into a position where I needed money really fast. I had to choose between selling my G19 and my PPQ. If it wasnt for all the support equipment I already had such as mags and holsters for the g19 I sold not have sold the PPQ.
Now that I have gotten past that situation and am in a good financial position I am going to be buying a PPQ in 9MM again really soon.
It was either going to be a PPQ or a P30. After shooting both and shooting a couple hundred rounds through the P30 it has solidified my decision to get another PPQ. The trigger and Ergos on that little pistol are unparalleled.
My PPQ is amazing for the price. I have owned seven Glocks and still own four H&Ks. The PPQ has made all of the other pistols obsolete for me. Nearly two cases of ammo through mine and not a single malfunction. More accurate and ergonomic than any other plastic pistol that I have owned and it weighs half an ounce more than my M&P 9MM compact when both are fully loaded ( 15+1 in the PPQ, 12+1 in the M&P). That is impressive.
I like my five M&Ps but the PPQ is way more accurate than my fullsize and compact 9MM M&Ps.
$40.00 is too much to pay for a magazine? To feed a quality gun like this, I think it is well worth it.
I rented the .40 S&W PPQ and a .40 M&P VTAC this weekend and put the M&P back in it’s case after five rounds. The PPQ was just so much more accurate for me. I have been trying ween myself away from the .40 S&W caliber but now I must have a .40 PPQ, it was just that good.
I have been a long time Glock owner. I just sold my G19 to replace it with a PPQ. That is my position, you will have to ultimately make this decision for yourself.
PPQ has more felt recoil and muzzle flip compared to the G19
I personally like the way the Glock shoots compared to the PPQ, despite the sweet trigger on the PPQ
I just topped 11,000 rounds through my primary PPQ 9mm, no issues. The only part that I’ve replaced was the RSA and I used a P99 RSA for that, since the parts are the same.
It always makes me chuckle how some get so hung up on parts availability. Folks, if you have to replace that many parts that often, perhaps the platform needs to be reconsidered.
As the PPQ grows in popularity, more support will be realized. Magazines will remain expensive, that’s just the nature of the beast. But I only own Walther’s and HK’s so I’m rather used to it.
I own a PPQ and 2 G19’s (Gen2 & Gen3), along w/ a Gen4 G23.
The PPQ is the easiest to be accurate with. As others have mentioned, the trigger is outstanding and the ergo’s are excellent. Also, I’m a huge fan of the newer Euro style mag release (think HK and Walther). I was pretty hot on getting a Gen4 G19, but am now contemplating getting a 2nd PPQ. I don’t shoot as much as most on this site, but for me, the PPQ has proven itself after 1000 rounds or so. I do have to get night sights for it at some point, but other than that, it needs nothing.
I won’t be getting rid of my Glocks, but my desire for more has been quenched by the Walther.
re: PPQ sights
PPQ sights are plastic and adjustable. I am a bit old fashioned about such things, but I think few would argue that steel, non-adjustable are more durable.
The Mepro and Trijicon replacement sights are metal but utilize the adjustable base.
However there are steel, fixed replacement sites available from Walther that are about $50. These rear sights actually blend better with the frame than the stock adjustable sights.
Also, PPS sights will fit the PPQ, without utilization of the adjustable base. The dovetail of the PPS and PPQ are the same. So aftermarket night sights for a PPS should also work for the PPQ. (Will let you know how that works out by the end of this week… provided FedEx delivers as scheduled.)
I totally agree with you. The standard models’ sights are the weakest link on the platform. I need to have them replaced with all steel non-adjustables as well.
Neither. The Caracal C is better than both. Its got the accuracy and nice trigger of the PPQ with the low recoil of the Glock. The price is right too.
my advice has always been if you’re going to buy a gun to fight with, buy the one that is known for durability and reliability. Once you’ve got your fighting guns, you can venture off buying other things for whatever reason you want.
I went Glock. (I have 4 CZ’s).
I DO LIKE the feel of the PPQ, and it gets more for ergos, coolness, etc.
But, the proven ruggedness of the Glock, along with it being slightly smaller, lighter are factors. The Gen 4 texture is about perfect for gripping, and the grip shape is a tad more comfotable than the Gen3 (sure wish they would loose the finger grooves). All this, and I got it with Trijicons and three mags for $60 less than the PPQ.
Also, while I’m not worried about parts, having cheap excellent mags available everywhere is a huge factor.
Also, for a combat handgun, the PPQ trigger is a tad light for me in a gun with no manual safety. With adrenaline pumping a little heavier is better.
I think the PPQ is infinitely preferable to anything produced by Glock over the last two years.
That may be true, but the new G21’s my son’s police department has seem to perform exceptionally well.