G19M issued at the FBI Academy

Retired FBI friend when to a show-n-tell and fondled the G19M. Some of his notes from the presentation:

[ul]
[li]Rounded muzzle for holstering[/li][li]Ambidextrous slide release levers and a reversible magazine release[/li][li]Fingergrooves are MIA[/li][li]Larger rear sight with orange-dot on front sight, he wasn’t sure if it was a night sight[/li][li]Conventional rifling with a recessed target crown. [/li][/ul]

He didn’t understand the presentation on the rifling and confused us when talking about it. His notes only had bullet points. Anyone know anything about the new barrel rifling?

On another note, they were informed that double-ought buckshot will no longer be used, only slugs.

Pics of the internals. Posted in the last 12 hours or so.

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/06/02/photos-of-the-glock-17m-internals/

Didn’t polygonal rifling used to be one of Glock’s selling points?

Thanks for the link

For sure polygonal was one of their selling points. Would assume the RFP required a specific type of rifling, during the presentation they stated it would improve accuracy. Don’t know, hope the pros will jump in and explain the difference.

My understanding was that conventional rifling was specifically requested by the Agency. It makes identifying who fired which bullet after a shooting easier as they can more easily be forensically matched to the barrel.

a reversible magazine release

That’s always been the case.

Thought only Gen 4’s

Correct.

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That’s been the trend for Law Enforcement agencies for quite a few years.

Not to stray off topic too much, but is over penetration the reasoning?

Somewhat out of my lane with shotguns, but I thought that a 12 gauge slug (especially at closer ranges) had fairly substantial penetration?

Normally the opposite. The faster and softer the slug the less it penetrates because it flattens out and/or comes apart. The closer the range the faster it’s moving when it strikes of course.

Harder, Brenneke style slugs stay together and penetrate more.

Gone are the days of a stray pellet being acceptable.

Why did Glock/FBI go back to the two pin style frame. I thought that was long gone engineering or was it found to be actually better/stronger than
the three pin frame method?

Hazarding a guess here but it might have something to do with the ambi slide release.

Yes. That is my understanding

Pellets off target striking unintended targets.

The Glock 19M has two pins instead of three? It being a 9mm, it should not be an issue with standard pressure and +P ammunition.

This^^^^
Several departments have been running cut barrels for a while. Makes the forensics easier, as the poly barrels were sometimes a PITA to ID. Very important when multiple officers were involved in the same shooting.
FWIW - I could never get poly barrels to ignite tracers!

john

Glock needs to make this a mass offering. Period.

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And… I want one… Digging the no finger groves and what looks like a flared mag well molded into the grip. Also I do like the angle on the slide, very glock 34-esque.