On Sunday, I got the chance to come down the Ken Hackathorn’s range (Ft. Harmar) and do some shooting in their new Shoot House. This new house is one of the best in the State of Ohio and it was a priveledge to get to use it.
In the coming months, look for us to setup Civy/Home Defense oriented training classes using this house with Mr. Hackathorn.
Enjoy the pics…
C4
Sgt. Watson of the T-County SO
Ken Switching Hands in order to pie a left wall.
Ken demonstrating how to fully open a door without entering the room.
Ken sportin the M&P
When dealing with hostage shots, it is important to NOT shoot the hostage in the head! Body shot’s are much harder to make so take the head shot.
Might be time to go back home to Ohio for a weekend. That’s awesome, Grant.
Come on back. 
C4
I wasn’t there, so Grant must have shot that hostage. 
Looks like a great shoot house and an awesome weekend of learning.
He should have a lifetime achievement award for his dedication and the willingness to give of his time and knowledge.
Did he address tactics for dealing with the space between the door jam and door itself that is created when the door is opened and the threat is in that space giving him a view of you? The overhead shot you show with the threat on the far left behind the door is the example I am referring to…
Or do I have to go to another class to get that info.
LOL, no I did not shoot the hostage. I did however shoot a friendly.
I used the KevinB logic: “I only saw one hand so I shot him.”
The worst part is tha I didn’t just shoot the friendly, I put the round in the head.
C4
The question you are asking is, can you take the shot between the the door and the door jam?
The answer is yes. We did no do that though as these were new doors.
C4
Very nice, but kinda small and timber walls (5.56 safe?). LOVE the catwalk.
Are those target frames and holders or bullet traps?
It is handgun caliber only and has bullet traps. The house is also set inside a earth berm so anthing gets through the walls ends up in berms.
I don’t think they will be doing any lighting.
C4
Gotcha thank you. How far away is your muzzle typically from the structure itself when taking the shot? Sorry for the questions but I have often wondered what the proper way of dealing with the situation that your pic showed and with Ken being there I couldn’t think of a better time to ask the question and clarify right from wrong.
Not sure if I fully understand the question, but will try to answer.
The distance of your muzzle from the door or wall matters not. What is important is how much of your body is exposed.
We were doing single man clears (aka Defensive clearing). So everything is slow and deliberate with a lot of pieing going on.
C4
You have clarified it already… I was curious after seeing the target engaged from inside the room, I wasn’t sure if the other options were covered and what the proper tactics would be given that example…
Simply trying to mooch of your time with Ken.
No worries. If you have not taken a CQB type class, I strongly suggest it. They are a real eye opener (especially in the dark) and 100% applies to civy’s.
C4
I am doing a 3 day pistol / carbine II in July with LAV at BW and would love to take a CQB class to wrap up the year.
Hopefully something will get scheduled around that time that I can take advantage of. It is an area I would really like to learn more about.
Looks cool! Can’t wait to try it out!
Can’t wait till November when I come home to visit and can run this puppy!
…yes, shooting a hostage is kind of frowned upon…but you gotta admit a hit in the eyesocket is a damn good hit.
Remember: After you shoot the first hostage, the rest are just witnesses.