A credible industry source just told me that this will likely be coming from Freedom Group (Remington).
Thoughts?
Any one hear or see anything?
It’s also not a big secret that the Hartford Horsey may be coming out with one, maybe in early 2014. Not in time for SHOT 2014.
ETA: Changed title. New gun is not polymer, not striker fired.
One of the mods over on coltforum.com posted this the other day.
http://www.coltforum.com/forums/lounge/70870-new-remington-51-a.html
thanks for the link.
Any more info on this? i didn’t find much on google.
A single stack 9mm designed to compete with the Shield…
"Dear Remington,
Please don’t screw this up.
V/R,
Serious"
The more the merrier.
I still just can’t believe Glock is missing this boat.
To be fair, if you are a Glock VP or CEO, you look at your finances and wonder if you really to do anything other than make your traditional models.
Yes and no. Colt did that, but by the time they started to innovate again (with the Double Eagle and the P2000) it was already too late.
Okie John
Realistically speaking, what does Glock really need to do in order to move closer to the “Perfection” they talk about?
The G19 (and/or the G17) are iconic firearms that set industry standards with every new generation. They try new things, RTF2, for example, some liked it, some didn’t but that’s really the end of that product are for them. They entered it, got the sales, nothing too impressive as most “new” Glocks sell out very quickly anyway.
What else are they going to do? Have a Gen5 G34 with the slide cut out for an RMR? Make a single stack 9mm? double/single 380? How about a dedicated Glock .22lr? Nothing really “new” persay in the gun world and we all know any one of those suggested models would sell out extremely quickly.
Unless something game changing happens in the pistol world, Glock just needs to come up with one thing a year (maybe) and not change anything too drastically. They can produce Gen3 19 and 17’s, and they will always sell out even if the market is saturated.
They need to correct the BTF issue, the extraction/ejection issues in Gen4 and some Gen3 9mm pistols, and the WML issues in some 40-caliber pistols.
Unless something game changing happens in the pistol world, Glock just needs to come up with one thing a year (maybe) and not change anything too drastically.
Game-changers happen in the pistol world all the time (accuracy: Walther PPQ, HK P30; trigger quality: PPQ; customizable ergonomics: P30, S&W M&P; optics readiness: S&W CORE, FNH FNX 45 Tactical). Glock has lost a lot of market share because they have stopped innovating. Their last new model was a Frankengun made of existing components, and their current models are far from perfect.
They can produce Gen3 19 and 17’s, and they will always sell out even if the market is saturated.
Again, that’s what Colt thought. Glock will be able to take a quick breather when they can build an optics-ready pistol that has P30 accuracy and ergos, a trigger like a PPQ, and is as reliable as a Gen2 G17.
Okie John
what is this, 2011? Those issues have been put to rest for some time now.
Game-changers happen in the pistol world all the time (accuracy: Walther PPQ, HK P30; trigger quality: PPQ; customizable ergonomics: P30, S&W M&P; optics readiness: S&W CORE, FNH FNX 45 Tactical). Glock has lost a lot of market share because they have stopped innovating. Their last new model was a Frankengun made of existing components, and their current models are far from perfect.
Again, that’s what Colt thought. Glock will be able to take a quick breather when they can build an optics-ready pistol that has P30 accuracy and ergos, a trigger like a PPQ, and is as reliable as a Gen2 G17.
Okie John
Glock is running about 1,000,000 guns behind now. They are limiting the sizes of dealer shipments to try and catchup. Right now, they don’t “need” to do anything but fill existing orders.
Jim, do you have a source for that backlog? Also - what are they running imports at now? 600,000 units? Does anyone know if most of the US product is actually for US markets (vs. export to countries that have Axis country import bans)?
Much obliged.
Also, somebody told me that Sig is coming out with a polymer frame pistol.
"Polymer Frame Striker Fired Pistol "
Wow…really? This is an amazing development.
Lol Let the shot show giddiness commence!
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SIG 2022?
I have supreme confidence that they will mess this up in some way. Smith and SA did with their unneeded safeties and recalls
. Maybe this new gun won’t have a safety but will have a terrible trigger and a new aftermarket can emerge just o make the gun bareable, or maybe the mags will be 80$ each or the sights will pop off after 50 rounds.
I wish I could post more but I promised our rep I wouldn’t . It looks good and along with the side by side testing against the competition they performed shows it will perform well .
As for the "smallish , single stack , polymer 9/40 market , the Ruger , Springfield and S&W are always on backorder so imo they will find customers . The street price will be under the Shield .
We’ll see .
My source is Glock Inc. I work for a Glock distributor and communicate directly with their reps. I have no idea what the % of import to domestic production is, but a 4 letter prefix is USA made. They were historically reserved for export and JSOC orders, but they are trickling into the Blue Label (and probably commercial) market. The only difference I can tell is just their serial numbers… the 4 letter prefix is the tell-tale sign.
I believe the Glock USA made guns are also clearly marked made in USA .