After the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, I won’t buy anything made in Germany.
I’m really for any American car. I own both GM and Ford currently. In the past I have owned Chrysler and Dodge. They have all served me well. I am not to retarded or lazy to do maintenance on my own vehicles so everything has been pretty much standard. I don’t subscribe to the fallacy that Honda and Toyota are the end all vehicles and that they never break. Also I’ve always been one to go against current trends so that’s just a character flaw, and perhaps a major reason why I don’t like Hondas and Toyotas( I also hate Iphones/Ipods/Ipads/anything apple, coffee shops, land rovers, yeungling, the list goes on.)
Many “American” cars are made in Mexico or made in the US with foreign parts.
Many “Foreign” cars are made in the US with mostly US parts. Even BMW has plants here where cars are made.
Its entirely possible to buy a car from a foreign brand be made here, and as an added bonus its not made by UAW scum. These days buying from the Big 3 is supporting the UAW which now owns a large percent of Chrysler and GM. Ford has managed a little better but not much.
Agreed…their offering has gone through quite a transition during the past decade. I’m very impressed.
Drove my first new Mustang few weeks back. The rental rep for National talked me into upgrading to a GT…tons of fun. Although I’d like a wider power band, it sounded pretty good and the automatic didn’t seem to miss a beat. Made great time from Baltimore to Washington 
Exactly. Check the sticker on the inside of your door for assembly location. My beloved Jeeps are assembled in Mexico and the new Cherokees are on Mercedes M-class frames, I believe. Meanwhile small towns in Ohio (Marion, Bucyrus) are kept alive supplying Honda’s HUGE assembly plant north of Marysville, Ohio
I agree with buying American when it’s actually produced, assembled, and sourced here but when I hear some bumpkin talking about AMURICAN cars…:rolleyes:
Amazing how that works, isn’t it. VW just opened a new plant and make the new Passat at it, here in the US.
Its entirely possible to buy a car from a foreign brand be made here, and as an added bonus its not made by UAW scum. These days buying from the Big 3 is supporting the UAW which now owns a large percent of Chrysler and GM. Ford has managed a little better but not much.
I drive German cars because for me, they handle much better than any big 3 car I have ever driven. My first VW was a made in America car back when they had a plant in Pennsylvania. My second was used and I don’t know where it was made, either USA or Germany (it was a one year earlier model year than my first but a different model). My third was made in Mexico, my fourth I think in Germany. My next will probably be made in the USA.
I do drive a Dodge RAM 2500 Megacab on the truck side. With the Cummins. No foreign company makes full size diesels. Mine is a 2006 and I will keep this one another 20 years. 2006 was the last of the 5.9l engines without all the Bluetech emissions crud added to it. I traded in a 2000 year RAM 2500 with the extended cab since they gave us cash on the trade in which basically allowed us to refinance some debt down to the truck level from high interest and we wanted the much bigger Megacab for my business and with 2 kids it is a lot roomier and works better.
The big 3 just don’t make many interesting vehicles in my opinion, except the diesel full size pickups since you really have no other choice.
Agreed…their offering has gone through quite a transition during the past decade. I’m very impressed.
Drove my first new Mustang few weeks back. The rental rep for National talked me into upgrading to a GT…tons of fun. Although I’d like a wider power band, it sounded pretty good and the automatic didn’t seem to miss a beat. Made great time from Baltimore to Washington
Exactly. Check the sticker on the inside of your door for assembly location. My beloved Jeeps are assembled in Mexico and the new Cherokees are on Mercedes M-class frames, I believe. Meanwhile small towns in Ohio (Marion, Bucyrus) are kept alive supplying Honda’s HUGE assembly plant north of Marysville, Ohio
I agree with buying American when it’s actually produced, assembled, and sourced here but when I hear some bumpkin talking about AMURICAN cars…:rolleyes:
I hear that argument a lot. Still won’t change my preferences but I’m glad you have yours. Both of my American cars were at least assembled in Michigan ( I checked the stickers). I don’t care how many us workers are employed at Honda I will never purchase that vehicle, and that’s my choice.
I did check my dad’s Ram however and indeed it says assembled in Mexico.
And I’ll never buy something made by the UAW. My choice.
Indeed
Its not an argument its a fact. Since you said you “buy American” I was pointing out how many “American” cars are made in MX or assembled in the US with foreign parts.
Buying a Big 3 car is no more American, in many cases, than buying a Toyota, Honda, Nissan, BMW, and a host of others. I’d even go so far as to say buying an American made foreign brand car is doing more to support America than buying a UAW owned GM where you’re giving thousands of dollars to UAW scum who support socialist politicians and business models.
Sure its your choice…no one said any different…just the statement you made is not factually correct.
Absolutely agreed.
Yet another reason to hate the junk that comes from the Big 3. I forgot about the scum sucking Union.
I know it’s only fair to make $57 per hour torqing lug nuts. :rolleyes:
Who believes this tripe?
Very little talk about German cars in this thread.
Mercedes rocks.
(Hence the screen name ;))
BMWs seem to be having problems as of late, but the German engineers that work for Mercedes are on top of their game. Everything makes sense, is easy to work on, and simple.
I love my Benzs’ engineering. Despise their electronics.
W123 or nothin here. Love my old 300dt, don’t think i’d touch a new one…
Don’t think I will ever buy a newer car, all are electrical nightmares waiting to happen.
2000 G500 W140
1999 S500 W463
1985 U1250L
Are what I have left. They have their issues, but are old enough that there are no “WTF! How is it even doing that?” issues like my ML had.
Had a 2008 ML430CDI, what a CF! Was looking at a newer C, it had issues during the testdrive!
Indeed. Old BMWs (e30s, e36s) were amazing cars…love those flat 6s. But the newer ones are far too complicated. The iDrive system is terrible. Mercedes does rock…as does Audi. I feel these two are strong buys, and as a general statement - the engineering/quality is readily apparent. Down to the thickness of the door hinges…they’re solid. No doubt about that.
I’m biased towards VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) though my GTI and Audi TT were two of the best all around cars I’ve ever worked on. 24mpg and 400whp is a great combination and very easily done on those 1.8T and 2.0T motors. And their AWD system is unrivaled IMO, and readily controllable with Haldex modules. And besides some Subarus - what cars can you chip (aka return to Euro standards) and gain 50bhp on? Then there’s the fact that Lamborghini, Bugatti, and Porsche are also part of VAG and a lot of their parts/technology that make their way down into VW/Audi cars.
You couldn’t give me two new Benz for one new M powered BMW!!!
Only folks I know that drive Mercedes near me are old folks:)
Fords are okay by me…I drive a Chevy Silverado
Going code to a possible burglary, kid in a truck pulls out in front of me. It was T-bone him or try to avoid him…