Force Science Institute: "How much do finger placement & ready position matter?"

Excerpt from FSI newsletter #278 on the effects of finger placement and ready positions. There are no real surprises, especially the notion that practice improves performance and early recognition of threats provides options. Still, it’s always handy to have a basis and hard numbers to answer why a method is chosen or not.

Many are not aware of the excellent work the Force Science Institute does. A subscription to their newsletter is available here, and worthwhile reading: http://www.forcescience.org/

I saw that newsletter in my email, and read it over lunch. I have picked up some very good “food for thought” after you introduced me to their website and newsletter.

Just as you say, it’s always a very useful thing to test ideas and assertions. I wish more people did so.

That’s some pretty awesome research. I had never heard of these folks before. Thanks for sharing.

They have a heck of a free newsletter, you would likely enjoy it.

Claude Werner, aka The Tactical Professor, also puts out a really good email that is always worth pondering. He’s a member here as well, but a very busy fellow.

It seems that an affiliation with an agency or organization is required to sign-up for the newsletter, but one can still read past issues on the website.

Hmmm - I wonder how I got in, then? I was able to sign up, and I’m a nobody.

Must have been Skintop911 acting as a lack of character witness for me.

It seems to be this way just by looking at the required data fields on the sign-up form. I may send them an email to verify.

They might not check very closely. I probably typed in something like “Cigar-Smoking Alcoholic” or some such.

Ha! Your repuation may have preceded you.

There is more than enough information available on their website to keep one busy for a very long time without signing up, anyhow.

I signed up yesterday, first chance I got.

Mr. Werner is one of the two who frequent the terminal ballistics threads, yes?

You could always just try to contact them to see if that is the case. From what I saw and read of them, it seems as thought their focus is on LE, so they may have some FOUO info that they can’t just readily share…unless you’re a Cigar-Smoking Alcoholic.

This is good information to review when developing training drills.

Force Science News is good stuff overall.

In reading the article when I got it, I immediately thought of ND’s in these two positions:

[i]- the index finger points straight ahead, resting across the trigger guard

  • essentially the same position, but with the finger bent slightly so the tip rests against the vertical side of the trigger guard[/i]

And keyed in on this: [i]In the future, Lewinski and his researchers intend to explore a variety of related issues, including:

• the effect of finger placement on the risk of unintentional discharge[/i]

Already been done, which is why so many agencies teach the ‘locator button,’ ‘ejection port’ (for lefties) or ‘slide’ trigger finger index. Anything across the trigger guard is a no-go.

I was surprised that the group of officers using the high-ready with the shotgun as described - with the butt against the dominant-side hip and the barrel pointing up at about a 45-degree angle - did as well as they did. Many don’t understand that a proper high ready with the shotgun waxes the low-ready when you run them on timers.

A proper police high ready when covering a threat starts with ‘eye-bead-threat’ alignment (sporting clays shooters put the bead where they want to break the bird), forearm parallel to the stock, stock approximately waist level, weapon held forward enough that the stock doesn’t snag on any uniform items as it is being rotated to the shoulder. In a proper position the officer can fire as soon as the shotgun stock hits the cheek - you maintain the bead on the target as the shotgun rotates up to the cheek, check alignment and shoot. This is why for pure defensive purposes most avid shotgunners stick with beads rather than ghost ring or carbine sights - it is quicker to see the bead floating on the rear sight plane.

A proper high-ready looks aggressive, and many officers can’t stay in the position for an extended period, so it is best to consider it an ‘escalated threat’ position - not a position to cover a possible exit point on a structure for an hour or so. :smiley: But it is wicked fast.

Sorry to morph into a treatise on my favorite tactical shotgun position.

Two thoughts…

Has anyone scientifically studied, photographed, and quantified comparative finger indexing methods in the way that is typical of FSI? I don’t believe so. Most information seems to be either anecdotal, or considers speed of trigger acquisition via a shot timer vs how likely a shooter is to do any trigger-checks.

Is the ejection port index, etc really that common? It seems to remain quite pocketed.