Thankfully the gunman was shot and killed before he could cause much harm.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40664031/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts
whats with the V in a circle?
V for Vendetta.
wow… gotta put a capital L on that one.
:eek:
fuckin A- he probably didn’t “suicide,” he probably ND’d himself.
Did you see the video where the lady snuck up on him from behind and tried to hit him on the back of the head with her purse? Pretty gutsy.
Fine line between gutsy and stupid.
I wonder how many board members had to go get a clean pair of underwear after that happened. Did you see how some just sat there in disbelief that it was happening?
She was at least proactive…which is better than the guys sitting at the table. “Please don’t” is an inappropriate response to someone who points a gun at you.
The disbelief continued throughout the incident. I saw a video after the shooting had stopped where one of the board members tells the hero who shot this dumbass that the dumbass was using “caps”.
Agreed but perhaps a bit more credit is due to the security guard who also engaged and shot the BG, at least he had a decent plan to along with being proactive.
I’m just saying there is a fine line between being gutsy and being stupid. Luck also played a role in that the BG didn’t seem to actually want to kill anyone.
In any other circumstance she would have been dead and I think the media is doing the public a disservice by suggesting that you can be a hero with a purse.
I disagree, sir. Watch the video. Watch how he closed distance on the members of the board and deliberately tried to put bullets into one of them who was just off camera as that man dove for cover.
He meant to kill…he just sucked.
Her plan was certainly not the most effective one…but it’s not like she had an abundance of good options. When her colleagues were in mortal danger she took it upon herself to act even at great peril to her own life.
Meanwhile when she was in peril none of the other dudes took a single proactive move.
In any other circumstance she would have been dead and I think the media is doing the public a disservice by suggesting that you can be a hero with a purse.
I haven’t seen much media coverage of this, but I think that anyone with an IQ in triple digits will be able to process that swinging a purse against a guy with a handgun is an ineffective response…but it’s better than sitting there waiting for the guy to shoot you.
But in this case, her proactive action could have resulted in getting herself or someone else killed. What did she hope to accomplish with the purse? It was an idiotic move and she’s lucky she didn’t pay with her life.
Action just for the sake of doing something isn’t always the best course. Especially if your actions aren’t going to provide a decisive outcome to the situation and even possibly make the situation worse.
In your opinion, what would have been an appropriate response in that situation? And have you ever been in that situation?
As opposed to the inaction of the other school board members which resulted in the guy shooting at them? Anything is preferable to sitting there waiting to get killed.
Action just for the sake of doing something isn’t always the best course. Especially if your actions aren’t going to provide a decisive outcome to the situation and even possibly make the situation worse.
Allowing a homicidal maniac to establish control is making the situation worse, whether that’s a nutcase in a school board room or hijackers on a plane bound for Washington DC.
And have you ever been in that situation?
If you mean have I ever been on the wrong end of a gun before, yes. I know what it’s like to be on the ground nursing a (thankfully minor) gunshot wound, son.
That should be the last time someone asks such a hair-brained question in this thread.
According to the media he pointed the gun at her like he was going to shoot her called her a “stupid bitch” and then didn’t.
A truly hardened killer would have just pulled the trigger. It seemed more like he was trying the whole suicide by cop thing which is what his words on the video seem to indicate.
I’m certainly not endorsing the actions of the other board members but I don’t think we can know what he intended to do or not do. They certainly don’t seem to be worth risking my life over. If however you’re going to execute a plan like that at least get yourself something resembling a weapon (fire axe, fire extinguisher, flag pole etc.,) a purse is an idiotic choice of weapon.
Reasonable people can disagree but the real hero in my estimation is the security guard.
I can only judge by his actions…which involved pulling a gun on people at a school board meeting, taking hostages, and then trying to kill the hostages.
Reasonable people can disagree but the real hero in my estimation is the security guard.
Yes, because he stopped the threat. Her actions, however, were still preferable to the inaction of the other people at the table.
People died at Fort Hood trying to stop Hassan’s rampage with improvised weapons they had at hand. A chair, if I recall correctly. Were their efforts stupid as well, or were they just people stuck in a bad situation who did whatever they could to stop the carnage?
Sometimes all you’re handed is a shit hand and you have to play it. The ideal solution would have been to shoot him in the back of the head…but that wasn’t an option for her at that moment.
All the shit my wife keeps in her purse, I bet I could fuck someone up with it pretty good. Especially if I snuck up on them.
If your only option is getting shot by a terrorist or using a purse. Then I suppose use the purse.
Sneaking back in to a meeting you’ve escaped in order to confront an armed assailant without a well thought out plan (not to mention something that could reasonably be used as a weapon) is not so bright. Especially when you don’t do anything to end the standoff and instead give the BG one more hostage (at best) or making yourself a target for execution (at worst) may not be the brightest move.
Calling the woman a hero without pointing out how truly lucky she (and everyone else in the room) was, does the public something of a disservice when there were actual heros involved.
Please note that I never referred to her as a hero. I simply stated that her response, however ineffective and poorly thought out, was vastly superior to the dudes who just sat there waiting for a homicidal maniac to spin up enough to shoot them.
…and she wasn’t on video trying to convince the guy who stopped the threat that he’d just shot an unarmed man in the immediate aftermath of the video, either.
She almost made sure of it though, didn’t she? Whats better, wait for the opportunity to make a move that will actually effect a desirable outcome, or go off halfcocked swinging a purse like an idiot?
And how did swinging a purse do anything to change that? He was completely in control the entire time. And she was lucky she wasn’t executed for her stupidity.
I’m all for making a move to remedy the situation, but you gotta at least put a little thought into it. The lady was an idiot.