Representatives are calling their constituents telling them it’s official - Fl is getting Haitians.
In other news, Haitians are piling dead bodies in the streets as roadblocks to protest slow relief efforts.
Deportation of illegal Haitian immigrants has been postponed indefinitely.
That’s just perfect!:mad:
No offense Roger but this doesn’t appear to be a very nice attitude towards people in desperate need of help. Do you think Georgia and Alabama residents would feel the same way as you do when Florida gets hit by another major hurricane? Where’s is your frustration/anger aimed at?
And another step closer
sounds like Katrina refugees coming to Houston however on a country size scale :rolleyes:
The frustration is that we are in debt. We are going MUCH further in debt. We have given Haiti $9billion in aid in the past decade and they’ve done nothing with it. Their neighbor on the same island is flourishing. We have enough people here mooching off the welfare state - we can’t afford them, let alone more.
I will be interested to see how many of them lift a hand to rebuild their homes over the next few months, how they work together to accomplish getting back to a ‘normal’ life.
We are also sending them 100 million (Edited from 10 Billion, sorry)in aid for the earthquake. Given the state of the country, they should still have that 9billion saved up somewhere that they could use.
We’re not mad at the Haitians. We’re mad at our gov’t for throwing money at a problem that will never get better by throwing money at it.
American refugees, no problem. Take care of our own.
Foreign refugees, i have a big problem with that. Why not send them to all the surrounding countries to ease the transition back to there country instead?
Because:
A. No country offered.
B. The country will NEVER go back to it’s previous “pristine” condition.
C. They won’t voluntarily go back unless by force and will do what ever it takes, to stay.
A year from now, you will be arguing with me to have the US, allow them to stay, because of the impoverish and deplorable conditions in that country. That country wasn’t fit for human habitation to begin with. What makes you think everything will be fine in 1, 5, 10, 20 years? It won’t. Mean while, our tax dollars will be diverted to them, instead of the needs of our country.
Most have been trying to gain illegal entry into the US forever. Now we help them get here, knowing full well that they will never return or have no burning desire to do so. I mean how do you convince someone who’s come from an already “shit” environment pre-earthquake, to refugee status in the US, to go back to “shittier” conditions post-earthquake? Sorry, not our problem.
Call me after you’ve lived down here for a few years.
If you can’t see the difference in taking in fellow citizens of an otherwise productive area and having turd-worlders that were busily running their own shithole further into the ground before this disaster, well…
The problem I see is that people are labeling every single Haitian as a worthless human being not worthy of help. I’m pretty sure that’s not the case. So are the only people worthy of help productive in society? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. 
Did you guys ever consider the fact that current and past refugees are/were just trying to escape the thugs, gangs, and civil war that had taken over their country? Do bad guys run away from violence or do good people flee for their safety?
I realize it’s one hell of a mess. But one has to be very careful about turning your back on another human being in need of help.
PS. I lived in the Tampa/St. Pete area for 5 years. So I’m not sure where you were going with that one.
So, how much have you donated to the Haitian relief fund? What right is it of the government’s to use our tax money to send to Haiti, or force people here to deal with refugees? If it were Canadians it would be a different story. Even Dominican Republicans - at least they have a productive country. I doubt that Haitians are going to fit well into our society without turning into criminals. They’ve sucked welfare from the US in their own country, and will continue to do so even more (higher cost of living) here in ours.
We’ll see if they prove me wrong. Hopefully they do.
The irony is that Wyclef is from Haiti, is heading up relief efforts, and came to fame with a group called the Fugees…
I live and work in the Dade/Broward area. Tampa don’t hold a candle to here.
I’m making two points.
Number one is that the people you’re volunteering others to take in are the same people, as a whole, that either made their country into a turd-world shithole or allowed it to happen. Neither desirable qualities IMHO.
The second is that you’re comparing people from another country to refugees from within your own county. If you think that’s a fair comparison then there’s no point debating any of this with you and I will gladly concede that by your ethics, morals, and beliefs you should volunteer immediately to host a Haitain family in your own home.
I have not seen anyone label every single Haitian as anything. Yes, as a population their did nothing by coming to this country but bring their problems with them, but I have had many Haitians work for me that were hard workers, enjoyed what they were doing, were glad to be here, and were attempting to assimilate as best they could.
I agree that if private citizens want to help to make themselves feel good then by all means they should continue with the texting (God forbid they break a sweat “helping”). I have a fundamental problem with the way our government spends all this international “aid” money to begin with, and that $100mil pledged today is only the beginning. Personally I would MUCH rather see that $100mil and the God-know-how-much-more dumped into NOLA (or better yet parts of Alabama that are still not back to 100%) helping Americans, creating American jobs, and building a better and lasting America.
Or our government could just stop over taxing us all together and let people do their own rebuilding with the help of their fellow countrymen. And stop giving welfare to mooches who think they deserve to not work.
But I’m sure you agree with me and know it’s asking too much of our leaders.
They won’t run from it, but they sure as hell will follow an opportunity. The thugs and criminals are probably going to be some of the first to jump ship and head here. Look at what happened to Houston’s crime rate after Katrina.
You are correct, it is not all of them. I know a few decent Haitians. But it is fairly most of them. And that vast majority are the problem. They have turned whole communities in South Florida into complete shitholes.
We are talking about thousands of people who don’t see anything wrong with defecating in public. They simply bring their current standard of living and continue with it here. And it is that lifestyle which makes Haiti the hell hole it is in the first place.
I feel that’s irrelevant anyway. Where are they going to put them? What facilities are they going to use?
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The Navy should surround that place and hold them their. C130s can drop aid. We have enough illegals crawling over the fence. We do not need to welcome a whole 'nother nation into our country. It is not about not being nice. It is about our civilization/culture/society. I hope Haiti rebuilds better then the have ever been, but importing them into this country is not going to help anybody.
We have starving, dying, and homeless people here in the US. Sorry, but Haiti and refugees coming from there are none of my concern or priority.
Its Somalia but in the Caribbean. The resources we sink into that arm pit will do nothing to change the out come. Hasn’t history shown us this already?
Can you verify this figure?
Regardless, if they would have civilized themselves decades ago they would have been evolved enough to actually establish building codes. They still have none.