First Impressions/Pics - Nightforce 1-4x24

Hey guys,

I picked up a new scope this week, after spending many agonizing hours trying to decide on a 1-4 power optic. I haven’t spent a lot of hours using it yet, but I thought I’d give a brief review of my thoughts so far. Maybe this will help someone who is interested in this scope, but doesn’t have a place locally to handle it in person.

I recently finished a BCM “Recce” type build - 16" barrel w/ 12" DD Lite Rails. Prior to this NF scope, I had been using a compact ACOG 1.5x24, which I liked, but was more geared toward CQB. It worked almost like a red dot, and I liked the tough construction and lack of batteries. However, it didn’t have enough maganification for me for longer shots. I looked at many different 1-4 power variable optics, but ended up with the Nightforce NXS 1-4x24:

First, a bit about the reticle/illumination. One of the main complaints about this scope is that it does not have a daylight illuminated reticle. While this is true, I don’t think it is worth getting hung up on. In bright, broad daylight the reticle looks black just like any other scope. However, even in bright daylight, the reticle appears illuminated red when it is against a dark background, like shadowy trees. I am not going to try to argue that it is as quick as a red dot because it is not. However, it is still very useful on 1 power for two eyes open shooting, which brings me to my next point. Many people prefer the FC2 reticle, which is a circle with a dot inside, but I actually like and am using the NP1 reticle, which is closer to a standard crosshair. I like to have the thinner precision crosshair even knowing I am sacraficing some speed in close engagements. Here are a couple reticle shots - one at full illumination and one at half:

On of the first things I noticed when handling this scope was the weight. It is not lightweight, especially since I was used to a compact ACOG. However, it feels extremely sturdy. I thought I might have to give up some durability when switching from an ACOG to a variable power scope, but having handled the NF, I don’t feel that way at all. It is solid. Adjustments are smooth and give very positive clicks.

All and all, I am very happy with the scope, and would definately recommend it. However, no product is perfect, so understanding the downside is important. Here is my overall view:

Pros:
Excellent Glass
Extremely Sturdy
True 1x performance
Smooth adjustments and excellent craftsmanship

Cons:
Cost
Weight
No daytime illumination (in actual use, this is a smaller issue than you think)

Let me know if you have any questions, and here are some more pictures:

enjoy !

great scope got a few myself…

Can anyone post a daylight picture of the NF illuminated reticle side by side with the S&B short dot?

I was considering a NF however I’ll spend the extra $ if the S&B is better at 1x in daylight.

I’m sorry I don’t have a picture handy. I have not seen an S&B, but from what I understand, it will have an illuminated reticle in bright daylight where the NF does not.

That issue was not important enough to me to justify the extra money, but if it is important to you, get the S&B. Even on a cloudy day, the NF reticle shows up illuminated, but in full sunlight, it does not. In full sunlight, the reticle just looks black like any other regular scope.

Does NF give the value in MOA (at 4x) for the difference in the cross-hair and the top of the lower post? Just wondering if there is some specific BDC value there.

At 4x it is 12 MOA.

Thanks.

On your “recce” build did you go with the SS410 barrel? I am debating the same set up.

No, I did not. This is BCM’s hammer forged barrel. The cost would have been the same to go with the stainless barrel, but I chose not to go that route. The BFH will have a longer life span, though I suspect I’ll never get close to that number anyway. I am happy with the accuracy I get from the BFH.

If this were a more specialized long range set up and I was using a much more powerful optic, I could see wanting to move to a stainless barrel for the small accuracy gains. However, with this recce type set up, I am only using a 4 power optic and this is more of a mid range all purpose set up rather than a super accurate long range shooter.

But, I think you could make the argument either way. I don’t think you can go wrong whatever you decide.

Thanks for posting your thoughts and comments. I am in the market for a few NF items currently.

I know it doesn’t need to be said, but beautiful rifle! I’m a sucker for FDE :wink: