I know this has been discussed at nauseum, BUT At this point…
Would you recommend buying a gen 4 glock 19 , tracking down an older gen 2 G19 on GB or going straight to the m&p line?
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You really ought to read the first few pages of threads here.
If you don’t feel like looking through any threads, do yourself a favor and finger as many guns as you can. You won’t go wrong with any of the name brand, quality guns. Glocks are good though.
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Get a Walther PPQ. It’s a solid, reliable pistol, accurate. simple and has just about the best trigger in the business
I don’t know what that means sir but you can give away some of that 9mm NATO. Don’t worry, it’ll get taken care of.
If you are only going to own one handgun it’s hard to go wrong with a 9mm Glock. I prefer the 17 personally, but the 19 is probably a better choice for CCW. Nothing wrong with Gen 2, but it won’t have a light rail on the dust cover. The Gen 4 still appears to have some bugs to be worked out. I would recommend you look at the Gen 3 17/19s.
Gen 4 G19. Be prepared for the possibility of messing with it. You might have to.
Or: used older vintage Gen 3 G19 of unknown history. Replace all the springs, then quit worrying.
OP, you will probably find a different answer from every member here. My first pistol was a Springfield Armory XD-40 Tactical. Since then I have had an XD-40 subcompact, Ruger LCP .380, XDm .40 3.8 compact, XDm .40 4.5 custom, and newest addition is the XDs .45ACP. The last three of those I still have. As you can see I am an XD fan.
If you’re unfamiliar with the XD line, it is a polymer pistol based off of a 1911 grip angle and shares the external grip safety which some love and some hate. My 5 different XD pistols have each functioned flawlessly through more than a thousand rounds each (almost a thousand with the XDs because it is so new, but still flawless so far) and each has had it’s own purpose.
Springfield Armory, Glock, Smith&Wesson are all good brands. There are many more.
I think you should look at what you’re trying to do and narrow the field. If this is a concealed carry weapon what kind of carrying do you need? Do you need something that will fit in your pocket or can you get away with wearing one on your hip? Is this strictly for home defense and range purposes? Do you want a polymer pistol? These questions will narrow the field quite a bit.
I personally don’t carry any caliber that doesn’t start with a ‘.4’, but I have carried a little .380. I don’t want to ignite a caliber flame war, its all preference. Once you have decided what qualifications the pistol must meet for use then we can help you further.
My buddies gen 4 is having issues with even at a low round count. If it were me I would buy a 3rd gen if possible
i have a couple of gen 3 glock 17’s and a S&W MP9. i did have a gen 4 g19 and sold it after about 2 months, didn’t really like it so much.
I would probably sell the S&W, but i will never sell the Glock gen 3’s.
-Smith M&P or 3rd gen steel autos
-Older/3rd gen G19/17,
-PPQ
-Used (or new if you have the $$) HK USP, p30
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You question is kind of like asking, “Which model should I sleep with? The blond, the brunette, or the red head?” (Correct answer is of course, the red head.)
There is some amount of personal preference involved.
A reliable Glock 17/19 is a good choice. Unfortunately buying new is a crap shoot. Used guns can be an option if not abused too much.
An M&P would be a very good option.
The Walther PPQ is a good gun. Magazines are a bit pricy. I personally don’t like the feel of the grip. Some people do. People have different size hands. Different needs. Different preferences.
You need to narrow down your list and then go out and shoot one of each gun on your list. Then buy whichever gun you like the most.
I have around 6,000 rounds combined from my gen 4 G19 and G17, both built after Feb of 12. I have had 2 stoppages total that were not user induced, both horizontal stovepipes, both with blazer 115gr.
At this point I am satisfied with the performance of the recent manufacture gen 4 Glocks to recommend them.
At this point, unless you want something other than a Glock, just get a G19, some extra mags, new sights (I am really digging the Ameriglo Hacks and CAPs with a pro operator rear), a decent holster, and lots of training ammo.
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+1 on the PPQ trigger being AWESOME.
My personal opinion is that the GEN3 Glock 19 is one of the best all around handguns ever made. Small enough to conceal for most people, but still large enough to shoot well. Glock pistols are affordable, durable, and reliable. 15+1 capacity is plenty of firepower, and modern 124 or 147 grain self defense loading in 9mm are more than adequate.
The GEN4 is probably a fine pistol, but I don’t have any experience with them. The GEN4 guns were built to fix problems with the GEN3 .40S&W models, and I would give the GEN4 a slight recommendation edge over the GEN3 in .40 caliber.
Smith & Wesson M&P pistols are supposed to be getting a new and drastically improved trigger sometime this year. The new M&P Shield is shipping with the trigger upgrades (and would also be an excellent pistol).
Springfield XD pistols seem bulky to me compared to the Glock & Smith, but they are also excellent firearms. My sister carries an XDM compact .40 as a police detective, and praises it as the best firearm she has every carried (previously carried Glock 17 and Glock 22 pistols).
+1 for the gen4 g19 and g17.
I have both and both have good amount of rounds through them.
My g19 is my carry gun and does its job.
Although that puts your MRBS at 3,000 rounds between them which is totally acceptable, I’d say it’s inevitable that you’re going to have some kind of FTE with 115gr bulk with the new springs.
For my first handgun, right now I would pick either a S&W M&P 9 or a Glock 19. Both of these pistols are well proven and aftermarket accessories are widely available.
If for what ever reason these two pistols don’t work for you, I would then broaden my search to include the FN FNP/FNX or Walther PPQ
All four of these pistols are roughly in the $450 to $600 range and all four would work well.
The G19 and M&P9 are very similar. Go with what fits your hand the best. Try this- pick a spot on the wall, close your eyes, aim handgun and what you think is the spot- open your eyes. See how your pointing and how your eyes line up with the sights. Do that with both guns. See what naturally points best for you. See which slide release you like better, what trigger, etc (ergonomics). Function will be the same. M&P is also available with a thumb safety if that is important to you.
find a local range that rents the guns you want. Shoot each one then decide. I like M&Ps but their triggers are garbage. Usually takes a couple hundred in parts to make them decent. Glocks are decent, but I don’t shoot them as well mainly because I haven’t had as much trigger time as other guns. I am a huge 1911 fan, but you have to be committed to parts replacement and being somewhat of a minor smith unless you have a good 1911 shop around and are willing to pay them.
The PPQ is a pretty viable option from what I have seen, but I have never shot one so its hard for me to be able to recommend it completely. I like sigs and berettas as that is what I cut my teeth on, but mastering the DA/SA trigger does take more time then a striker fired gun that has one pull.
Even with all that being said, the first gun I put in a person’s hand when they are new and asking about a first pistol is a glock 19.
+1 on going to your local dealer and trying all the guns on your list.