I was looking to buy my first AR-15, I was at a gun show a few week ago and found a used M&P15OR that a guy was selling and he said he had fired 200 rounds, the gun looked new.
Accessories are a hand rail, Vortex red dot, Mag-pul flip up front and rear sights, vertical foregrip, single position sling for $800.
I have shot it three times so far, today I shot off sandbags at 100yards with the red dot, it has a 2x eyepiece so that helps my over 50 eyes, I had forgot the magazines at home, so a slow single shot process. Well the group was as in the 2" bullseye, a 1 1/2" group, two of the bullets were almost toughing.
I was impressed, now I want to put a scope on it with detachable mount, I have a nice 3x9 to put on it.
I am really curious to see just how good this rifle will shoot, I reload and the group above was factory 55 grain HP from Remington, The barrel is a 1/9 twist so I am guessing that the 69 Grain Sierra Match BTHP will do even better.
You may want to reconsider mounting that Magpul front sight on the gas block (I assume that’s where it is). As for getting a deal, not really. You got a used (regardless of whether it was “claimed” to have 200 rouunds through it) and some mediocre accessories. What type of rail system did it have?
UTG rail with the rail past the gas block, yes the flip up is on the gas block. The rail is $100, I added up all accessories and the best price around here where I live is the M&P15OR is $850, so all added up new to $1,450 so I feel I did alright.
This gets me into a AR at someones else’s expense, so I can find out what I want longterm, I may even build one next.
I am sure I can sell the AR without the Vortex for what I paid for it.
For $200 more than what you spent my buddy just bought a complete SOPMOD LMT lower, a complete COLT BCG, and a BCM CHF 16" middy upper with a Larue 9" rail from the equipment exchange here. I’m sorry, but in my opinion I wouldn’t say you got a good deal on that AR15.
yeah…you could have always done better, but you also could have done a lot worse. The S&W is not a bad rifle, UTG sucks though, not familiar with the vortex. Just go out an put as much ammo down range as humanly possible and if something breaks, just replace it with a better part. Too easy!!
Thanks for the website looks like with shipping and ffl around $1050 for a Colt 6920.
I am having a ball with the M&P right now, I knew when I purchased it the Vortex was a inexpensive red dot, however, I will move it to a 22lr latter on, then I may just scope my M&P for deer season.
The UTG rail you say is garbage, I really have no experience with the rail system, it is working right now, I do have the original hand grip if I want to put it back on. The VFG is coming off I really don’t care for VFG’s, I will put the rubber protectors that came with the UTG on it and shot it with those for now.
I am glad I purchased a used rifle for now, I can get some experience with it and learn, I did the same with a 1911 and that is working out quite well.
Thanks for the insight and the advise, I do appreciate the help.
Great rifle - you’ll find little love for S&W on this forum, but I think you did fine for the money you spent, and now you should shoot the hell outta it and enjoy Grant is absolutely right; you will enjoy that rifle more if you upgrade the buffer spring and buffer. As for the Vortex, they are a clone, albeit a decent clone, but still lacking in the quality department. I have one I received as a gift, mounted on an AR for a while, but it just couldn’t hold zero. Moved it to a .22, and its been excellent ever since.
I’m curious if you did any research here before you bought it or if you bought it and then popped in here.
The S&W MP line is what it is. It isn’t the first choice for most members here for a few reasons, same with the accessories you now have. Then again, this is not the average gun board where extolling the virtues of a commercial quality will win many points. Most of our members are hard-use kind of gun owners and therefore have a different needs list than most recreational users, and are past the “look at my gat” stage. We tend to mostly be about, “what I bought, why I chose it, and how well is it performing at my intended task”.
Welcome to M4, I hope you find what you are looking for, but that usually begins with the orange “Search” button. It saves a lot of time and argument.
I don’t think anyone here “hates” S&W AR’s, it is just that you can get a lot more gun for a little more money…meaning that the S&W is expensive for what you don’t get.
It seems to be an OK starter rifle IF you can get it cheap enough.
I’d take the UTG HG off and put a MOE on it and go shoot. Put the UTG junk back on it to sell it, some bubba will just love that tacticool quad-rail SWAT look.
Like others have said, “You cound have done a lot worse!”
What’s good about guns is they don’t spoil. Shoot it a while, learn what’s good, save your money, then upgrade.
But maybe it’s just me…
PS - Seriously, you seem to have a good attitude. That is good.
Don’t worry you could’ve done alot worse than S&W. Read some stickies and shoot it. UTG is not combat ready but it won’t make your rifle blow up either so don’t worry about that either for now.
Magpul sites are polymer and are a no go on the gas block due to heat issues. You’re going to want something metal. And where are the pics
Mich, don’t feel bad. I stumbled onto a 15OR at Gander right when Obama was going to pose the ban :rolleyes: and before I found this site. Got it for a little more than you, had a vortex too. Strike fire is probably one of the best aimpoint type clones in imho. I sold the strike fire for an Aimpoint Pro. I’m running an TRX Extreme 13" with Troy folding battle sights, Magpul CTR and MIAD. I Recently had Grant put on a Battle Comp 1.0. I may have put more into this rifle than most would but it runs without issues, for a range shooter and home defense I think it’s sufficient. A hard lesson but if I were to do it again… I’d be getting a Colt or BCM from Grant. He’s really helped me along on this venture, I’m very lucky to live close to G&R. Seriously consider Grant for ANY future purchases, he won’t steer you wrong.
OP, enjoy the thing. If you aren’t a cop or going to war, you did fine.
No it isn’t the best AR, but it’s far from the worst. Shoot a lot, read here a lot, ask questions a lot and take answers even if you don’t like them. The friction you might detect, subtle as it is ( ), is that it’s pretty common for someone to buy a setup like yours, come here and ask about it after the fact, not like the answers from experienced and decidedly short on sense of humor folks, and then proceed to defend there purchase till there last breath, even if it were to blow up and take there arm off. That’s a bad way to go on a number of levels. I hope you have a good time with your AR, and can get some good info out of here. In no time you’ll be at gun shows looking at AR stuff and saying “wow what a bunch of overpriced crap this is” just like the rest of us and ordering everything online.
Mod Edit: If you feel that something is worth of you donning the mantle of forum Jiminy Cricket, then it is worth you hitting the Report Post button and calling the attention of somebody with the actual mandate to DO something. It would have taken less time and netted better results that that horse-puckey I just got through replacing.
Grant is absolutely right; you will enjoy that rifle more if you upgrade the buffer spring and buffer. As for the Vortex, they are a clone, albeit a decent clone, but still lacking in the quality department. I have one I received as a gift, mounted on an AR for a while, but it just couldn’t hold zero. Moved it to a .22, and its been excellent ever since.
), is that it’s pretty common for someone to buy a setup like yours, come here and ask about it after the fact, not like the answers from experienced and decidedly short on sense of humor folks, and then proceed to defend there purchase till there last breath, even if it were to blow up and take there arm off. That’s a bad way to go on a number of levels. I hope you have a good time with your AR, and can get some good info out of here. In no time you’ll be at gun shows looking at AR stuff and saying “wow what a bunch of overpriced crap this is” just like the rest of us and ordering everything online.