Final Days of Bush 41

It sounds like he will soon pass. He has been in the hospital for the past month with bronchitis or pneumonia and took a turn for the worse in the past couple of days. Reports now have him in intensive care and family gathering by his side. While he made his share of mistakes (such as Bush 43), I suspect that he is a decent man at heart.

Didn’t think it was looking to good for him, either, from what I saw reported today.

Seems like people that age, once they get into a bad swing like this, rarely make it out the other side as they were before.

Yes, it sounds like this is it.

I wasn’t a fan.

1989 Import Ban by EO at the request of Bob Martinez who claimed only “drug dealers” used these weapons.

Resigned NRA membership because they called ATF “jack booted thugs” following WACO.

Trashed our relationship with Iraq, the closest thing we had to a secular democracy in the Middle East, after refusing to get involved in the Kuwait / Iraq “lateral drilling” dispute and then suggested the US would not get involved in “Arab / Arab affairs” and then acted shocked when Saddam invaded Kuwait and delivered an ultimatum.

Claimed no knowledge “out of the loop” concerning Iran Contra and then revealed he was “one of the few people that know fully the details” after his election and then pardoned all who were indicted or convicted.

Had the nerve to complain that reporters were ruining his vacation when his golf game was interrupted with questions about the war.

And lastly, when MIA activists disrupted an event with chants of “tell us the truth” Bush responded insultingly with “Will you people be quiet.”

What SteyrAUG said.

Especially about the Iraq business.

When people lament we have no friends in the Middle East besides Israel I always point out that we hanged the other one. Iraq was a sewer and Saddam was the manhole cover.

What he did to Ross Perot was terrible, gave us eight years of Clinton.

They did the same thing to Herman. No leaders need apply to the two party dictatorship.

Which is why my endorsement was luke-warm and qualified with noting his share of mistakes.

Understood.

Sadly I “should” have liked Bush 41.

Besides being a Republican he was a WWII aviator and carrier pilot which is no easy job. I respect his service, but it mostly ends there. His son was likeable enough even if a bit of a dullard.

But Bush 41 ended up being most of what I despise about politicians in general and most Presidents in particular. If I had to decide who was worse, him or Clinton I’d actually have to sit down and do the math. Clintons ban actually went away, unlike the 89 ban but we ended up with his bitch whore of a wife as a senator and then SOS.

I agree with you on his '89 ban, the ATF/NRA debacle, Iran-Contra, and many of his “senior moments” during speeches and debates.

I’m not so hard on him for his treatment of Sadam. While the lead-up could have been handled better, I suspect that he was an itch that we were eventually going to have to scratch - one way or the other.

As stated, I wasn’t a fan of his presidency, but I salute him for his service to the USA.

The left wing blogs are proudly stating they wish his death. How friggin sad!

That shows how they view those who aren’t 100% pure international communists.

For years under Reagan we cultivated a relationship with Iraq. Make no mistake Saddam was a brutal, shitbag dictator but in the Middle East you have two choices: An Ayatolla or an Assahola

Saddam fought an almost decade long war with Iran saving us the trouble of having to deal with them. Kuwait was stealing Iraqi oil, problem is they were selling it to us so cheap the last thing we were gonna do is say they were the bad guy.

We really did kind of fuck Saddam over in the grand scheme of things. His war fought with Iran benefited the US greatly and that combined with low Kuwaiti oil prices (some of it stolen from Iraq) put an enormous economic hardship on his country. This was obviously compounded by Saddam living a lavish lifestyle but that is hardly unique in the Middle East.

Rather than help our “ally in the region” with any meaningful assistance or at a minimum just keep our nose out of it, we betrayed him in favor of Kuwait. And in doing so all that “cheap oil” was offset by the cost of dealing with a now belligerent Saddam who would create crisis after crisis and take us to the brink and ramped up for action and then back off.

He finally became enough of a viable threat we were forced to invade his country and remove him from power. Sadly the entire thing could have been avoidable with just a little foresight in 1990. As it stands now Iraq has a government that is viewed very much like the Shah of Iran and considered by most in the region to be a Western installed puppet. Sooner or later Iraq will probably have a government led by the Muslim brotherhood and we will wish he had Saddam back.

As enemies of the United States why should they be any other way?

And I feel exactly the same about their socialist leaders, including those who may have an “R” after their name.

Link??

Sample:

[b][i]BertD72 @terror66613

DIE YOU BASTARD-----> Former US President Bush on liquids-only diet after fever worsens itv.co/WHgVEx[/i][/b]

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/12/26/41st-president-george-h-w-bush-has-rising-fever-leftists-on-twitter-hope-he-dies/#more-42295

I tend to agree. Perhaps in death, he can serve a useful purpose if his passing takes away from the gun banners face time on TV. It wouldn’t fully make up for his betrayal on the 1989 inport ban, but it would be better than nothing…

But we had to remove the WMDs! :rolleyes:

We didn’t KNOW that.

We KNEW he once had chemical weapons and used them (ask the Kurds). We KNEW he had the capacity to produce them.

9-11 taught us that he didn’t need a missile delivery system to employ them against the US, he simply had to provide them to any of the terrorist organizations he had known ties to.

The UN was sent in to determine what, if any, stocks of NBC type weapons Saddam still possessed and he played shell games. When it was learned that some UN inspectors were bribed by Saddam we lost confidence in any of their findings.

That left us with two options:

  1. Trust that Saddam will not delivery such weapons to terrorist groups willing to use them against the US.

  2. Determine the status of his weapons ourselves.

Providing tanker escort, taking out Iranian goplats, providing intel and arms were all part of our cultivating Iraq. Iraq claiming that the USS Stark was inside the War Zone, firing 2 Exocet missiles and killing 37 Sailors in 1987 was pretty much a wake up call. The cultivation did not succeed.

Yep, and there was zero chance of the US ever siding with Sadam after his chemical attack on the Kurds in 1988. Basically, he wrote his obituary with that action.

The 9-11 terrorists were Saudis.

Why didn’t we attack Saudi Arabia and go nation-building THERE?

When The Japanese hit Pearl Harbor…we did not declare war on China…did we?

-brickboy240

PS: I wish we’d drill and refine HERE and leave these crap holes alone.