Fighting AR's and front sights...

When did I say LeRue mount? They make great mounts and If I were to have anything other than a ta01NSN then it would be a great mount. I perfer the cross hairs reticle of the ta01 and ta01nsn over the others and as the nsn already has a mount you get the best of both worlds.

I also have zero problem running a fixed sight even with optics (either RCO/ACO or Sort Dot).
If the gun has a rail and a ges block, it will be an LMT front sight.
I have some Troy folding front sights on TE& guns (M&P’s). Unless you are religious about loctiting the screw/ bracket, they are gonn’ part company with the gun.

I know I will get bitch slapped on this – but I prefer the KAC flip front sight gasblock combo with the Short Dot.
For a EO or Aimpoint gun I will go with the fixed front - and the advantage it gives your PEQ-2 a bit of protection front frontal impact.

Thanks for the input from everyone so far.

A fixed FSB is the strongest GB/Sight available to date. It is the perfect choice for CQB type weapons (basically anything with a 1X optic). I also like flip down rear BUIS’s so I can shoot an ACOG or scope if I so choose too.

At S&W’s Urban AR school the instructor made a point that in a bad situation, you are basically going to point shoot. I believe this to be true and if my optic went down, I would simply be using the optics window and pulling the trigger.

I have shot like this out to 75yds and been able to hit man size targets all day long.

C4

When shooting a magnified optic, I agree with your opinion.

C4

Fixed (and forged!) here. Larue BUIS for the rear. Using the optic as a rear for an expediency does indeed work, at proximal ranges.

I prefer fixed front and rear with a lower 1/3 cowitness on all my 1X optic equipped carbines. They all also have a XS 24/7 Big Dot installed.

Anything over 1X usually gets folding front and rear BUIS (with the assumption that it’ll take me a few seconds anyway to remove the optic if it goes down).

Stephen

Speaking personally I didn’t even have a red dot optic until last month. All of my training has been done sans-optic, because I didn’t really “need” one. I was able to get the job done pretty well with irons:

Now that I have the Aimpoint I don’t plan on doing anything different as far as the irons go.

In my opinion (which is worth about half of what you paid for it) a fixed front sight and an always there rear sight is the way to go on a fighting carbine. At least that way if your optic craps on you while you are trying to make a shot, or if you don’t notice that it has crapped out on you until you are trying to make a shot, you don’t have to do anything but switch your aim to be through the sights.

With some practice this can be done almost instantly with no loss of time. I know the Aimpoint can be used successfully as one really big rear ghost ring, but personally I don’t really lose anything by having the always there rear sight so I figure why not just have the proper rear ghost ring there?

I have had three department rifles have issues with set-screwed gas blocks with flip-up BUIS. All of them moved and caused functioning problems. I use my carbines as fighting tools, so anything that impedes it going bang gets a no vote.

If I acquire an SPRish rifle with a magnification greater than the 1.5x of our Compact ACOGs, then I would go with no BUIS at all. But that would just be for fun, not a work gun.

I’ve been cheated! I want a refund.

It will be delivered by Harvey the Rabbit by the end of the week…

If I may ask a question, if the choice is limited to a flip up front sight, which type do you’all prefer, gas block, or FF-rail mounted?

+1

Much less to go wrong. Instant changeover.

The Ranger Regiment proclaimed FF-rail mounted front sights useless, based on their experiences with the SR-25. Of course that was a for precision use; maybe as a BUIS for carbines they might work, because then they just need to be capable of minute-of-man accuracy, so the handguard flex you get with FF rails might not matter as much.

Rob

Do you have pix of a cut down carry handle. Is it cut and welded or what?:confused:

I got it. No need for reply:)

I currently have 4 carbines set up as follows:

  1. Colt 11.5" - Troy 7" rail- Aimpoint - LMT BUIS - FSB
  2. LMT 10.5 - LMT 7" rail - LMT BUIS - FSB
  3. Colt 16" - Carry handle - FSB
  4. Noveske10.5" - LMT 10" rail - NOVESKE GB that has set screws and is
    pinned - Sights still in progress, but plan on an Eotech and folding sights.

My bottom line is: if the GB isn’t pinned, I’m not going to use it.

But that’s just me.

They were declared useless by everyone with an SR-25 since you have to carry a wrench to remove the scope to get to the iron sights. The only reason they have iron sights is that some big brain at SOCOM said they were needed. Most guys take them off so they don’t lose them, anyway, since they’re pointless on a sniper rifle.

For the record, the SR-25 sights are not rail mounted, they are mounted on the gas block. “Handguard flex” would not affect them at all.

If you could use the iron sights readily the KAC 600M and SR25 front would be top-notch as far as Iron sights go.

I must say that I run with my sights up even if they do fold down (Troy / ARMS)

I like to co-witness the Aimpoint w/ my irons. Guess I wasted the $$