IF the pistol can be made into a true pocket gun (think Keltec P32 size or smaller) then I am completely on board and would use it for a backup gun while I carry my 9mm on my waist or a better than nothing gun for when I can’t carry IWB or just want to be wreckless and going to get Chinese takeout so I don’t want to holster up.
IF the pistol is the same size as a 9mm or not enough to pocket carry and it just holds 2rds more then completely count me out.
What a worthless post
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/federal-introduces-the-new-30-super-carry/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGHxrE9HXBs
12 round capacity in a single stack 1911. 1911’s aren’t my thing but I know a lot of people like them so that isn’t a bad thing…
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-super-carry-welcome-new-cartridge/
I was just thinking the same.
Unlikely. According to what Disciple posted, it is longer than .32ACP and operates at more than twice the pressure. Its overall length is exactly the same as the 9x19. Just like .327 Federal is an alternate chambering for guns that would otherwise be sold in .357M, this round will most likely end up in 9mm-sized, or nearly so, guns.
People are hesitant to carry a Glock 43 because of the ammo capacity. This should give us 8 round flush fit mags and 10 round pinky extender mags. Sig P365 could have flush fit 12 round mags and the XL would be at 14 or maybe even 15.
I dont think it would be a good replacement for 9mm duty size guns but the really small guns could use less recoil and more ammo.
Yeah, the 43 would be a great candidate for this round. Although, Glock chose to engineer a whole new gun rather than give us factory +1 or +2 mags, so I don’t expect much further evolution of the 43. Maybe one of the million companies selling Glock accessories will make a good conversion.
Speaking of the G43 and the P365, I can’t help but think this cartridge might be a few years late to really thrive. If it had been around prior to the current crop of 10+ round micro nines, it might have gotten a better toehold, like in a G43, Kahr, Nano, 1911, etc. But today, if I want 8 rounds in a G43, I can buy like 10 guns that do that, or better.
Also, Italy just dropped the ban on “military” calibers. This cartridge could have been a good alternative to 9x21, while also bringing the 92 up to modern capacity. Might still fit that niche in some markets, but I don’t know.
If PCCs become a thing, I can see a 8mm Rex rifle can in my future.
Yea after more looking into it and thinking about it this is destine to fail before setting sail IMO. This is basically the 40 S&W release of today, an answer to a non issue. Only difference is the 40 S&W came along when the gun community was a little less knowledgeable than today. This will be a massive flop IMO.
I’d rather see someone do something innovative and release some 50 caliber pistols. Maybe a 50 GAP round or something like that but call it the 50 ACP. Or maybe something in between such as a 47/48cal.
People would jump all over a fiddy IMO.
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to say something off the topic.
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I would expect .380 sized guns with a rnd offering close to 9mm terminal ballistics and or 9mm sized guns with a higher capacity than 9mm.
This. The S&W shield (to me) is a true pocket gun… even with the extended mag I can put the gun with holster in my pocket.
There are so many good compact 9mm options, I can’t see any logic in a weak caliber. Gun owners are often enamored with small/compact options even when they make no sense… I mean that IS the entire .380 shooter community. How anyone could carry that pathetic round and feel “armed” escapes me.
I’ll get laughed at for this, but I’ve barely convinced myself that a 9mm is worth carrying. Anything smaller and less potent? Nah, I’ll pass. I might be proven wrong, but I can handle that.
I’m there with you. I prefer 45cal, reason being is if I’m only punching holes I want to punch as big of holes as possible.
However I mainly carry 9mm because for me personally I’m much faster with it and it holds a bit more. But I transition between 9mm and 45acp throughout the year, no other caliber.
It seems pretty cool to me but does it really make me want to change my current 9mm loads. Nope, but it will have its takers for sub-compact low mag capacity guns for sure. But I’m the asshole that shoots more 9mm, 223, 308, 300WM and cautiously went into 6.5CM and that was a stretch even though it has been accepted.
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How is this going to be a 380 replacement when it appears to be the same overall length as the 9mm and much higher pressure than the 380. Seems that it will require a 9mm sized pistol
I’m pretty sure that anyone that believes this 30 Super will work in an LCPMax/Bodyguard/P3AT sized pistol does not have firearm design experience in their resume.
No way will that work. 50K psi and 9mm ballistics in a gun of that size?
Think about it.
.380 shouldn’t be replaced. It should fade into the dustbin of history.
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The 380 still has a place in pocket guns. Micro 9s really are still too big and heavy to be ideal in this role. I have a Ruger max in 380 and it’s super light and small nice for those times when you have to have a pocket gun. I obviously prefer the 9mm for normal carry.
I just moved “up” to .380 for my primary carry. 13+1 rds of it in my DA / SA Beretta 81FS. It’s got the frame mounted safety-decocker if you’re not familiar.
Usually carry a Beretta .25, too. Also DA/SA.
But I agree deep penetrating, expanding bullets are better so, sometimes I carry a Colt King Cobra .357 mag revolver.
Hey, what does that Ruger Max .380 weigh loaded?
I can’t find that anywhere. All I find is the same quoted weight empty and dont know if that’s with or without magazine.
Its amazing how many people make a video informing others about their favorite carry gun but don’t even have a $10 food scale to weigh it!
I saw the appeal of .32 magnum / .327 because it puts 6 shots in a snub revolver with the benefit of low recoil training ammo with .32 S&W Long / .32 mag.
Wife and I each have a .327 LCR.
I’m not yet seeing the big advantage to .30SC.
New shooters wont like the blast, volume shooters wont like the price.