Federal 147gr. HST +P 9mm and Glock 26?

I am searching for a suitable load for my Wife’s Glock 26. I have experimented with Gold Dots and Federal Hydro-shocks through this gun with varying results. Firing my test loads through 4 layers of denim and into well saturated newspaper, I can clearly see why Doc doesn’t recommend any of the 115gr loads available.

What do you all think of the 147gr. +P HST load? It would seem that perhaps the +P load would maybe help offset the shorter barrel of the 26? My wife is a very capable shooter and I believe this would be a good load for her to try. What do you think? Do you believe this load is going to reliable out of a short barrel?

The standard pressure 147gr loading works well out of a 3.5" barrel.

I personally don’t see a need for a +P loading.

Beat Trash is right on.

We mainly test 9 mm loads out of a 4" barrel–there is minimal difference noted when you drop down to a 3.5".

Stick with any of the loads listed: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

Great! Thanks for the quick replies. I already ordered a box of 147 +p to try. Is there anything wrong with the plus p other than extra gun battering? For example, we know that the 230 grain gold dot is great in 45 but the 200 grain +p gold dot in 45 is bad. Is this the case with the HST?

I think what you picked is a good choice! However, if you want the ultimate in the G26, I personally carry the Winchester Ranger-T +P+ 127 gr. 9 mm load. It’s simply the best in terms if velocity and weight. And the slug itself is basically a re-rolled Black Talon. Although the kinetic energy will be slightly lower out of out 3" G26’s the advertised velocity of this round will produce ~440 Ft.-lbs. That is much above a .45 acp in standard pressure…now before anyone jumps me, this was not meant to be interpreted as a 9 vs 45 debate. I think you’ll find the 127 gr. +p+ is the most powerful 9 mm round available. Whatever you carry, test it’s reliability in the gun first.

I’ve shot hundreds in mine with no problem. And expansion was always over .600"

The Ranger 127+p+ was going to be my next try if the HST’s didn’t work out for us. I’m glad to hear that others share this idea

I dont see a need for the 127 +p+ the 147 Ranger T gets the job done fine.

The 147gr. HST’s(standard pressure) and the 147gr. Ranger both perform well from my own G26. No need for the plus P IMO.
The bullet design easily overcomes any velocity loss,which is negligible anyway.

Good to know that the standard pressure 147’s are going to get the job done from the 26 too. I bought the +p because that’s what ammotogo had in stock. However if I run across some standard loads then I will give them a go too

On a comparative basis, pistol calibers shot at pistol velocities suck regardless of what name is on the box or how they are made. There are obviously some that are better constructed than others, so as long as you stick to the proven loads, just find the one that shoots to an acceptable level of accuracy out of your gun, functions well, and is controllable for your wife to shoot for 2,3,4+ round strings of fire. For a small gun in the hands of someone with less wrist strength, I would stick with standard pressure rounds…just my thoughts, and worth what you paid for them :slight_smile:

If you’re still looking for standard 147 HST www.sgammo.com has some in stock for $25.95

Great, thanks for the link

While the 127 gr +P+ is a fine load, agencies here found it did NOT work as well in OIS incidents as standard pressure 147 gr RA9T and P9HST2…

Great to know, thanks Doc!

That’s good to know, certainly not what I would have figured.

What exactly failed about the RA9TA 127? Just curious if I need to change. I based my decision to carry on personal test results, reliability, controllability, and power. It would be good to know what didn’t work.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

My guess, probably core/jacket separation and maybe failure to expand.

Doc,

Concerning the lists in the linked thread. Are these in any specific order or just randomly put in the list? i.e. Barnes XPB 115 gr JHP being top of the list is this what you consider the best or just where it happened to land?

I believe I read in one of the other threads here, Doc telling someone that they are in random order on the list.

That is what I figured since it wasn’t specifically stated this was a ranked list I just wanted to make sure. Plus it looks like Doc separated them by weight. I suppose if I had my morning coffee before asking the original question I would have noticed that and not needed to ask!!

I carry and shoot the 127+p+, including in my G26. It’s HOT and lets you know it’s +p+. And, it’s very accurate in all my Glocks. The latest batch on the “T-Series” (from 2009) would give me 100% jacket seperation when fired into water (except when fired from my G26, which, I assume, kept the thing together due to lower vel.)The older 127 SXT (pre T-series) would never lose the jacket in water and expanded perfectly in the nasty black talon fasion.

As a side note, I just ordered a few boxes of HST 147+p to test since I hear nothing but good things about it.