The most frustrating & irritating part of it is not only is it true, but that SOME LEA/LEO will berate, belittle you as if your not only paranoid but a Tinfoil Hat cart blanche member.
I have never seen this country so jacked or messed up.
I certainly hope this current trend/funk/darkness ends soon as it has made my circle smaller than I ever thought possible.
I have never witnessed such elitism, hypocrisy, double standards, apathy, deceit, evil intent, venality, virulence, corruption in all my travels all around the world.
When people start quoting mainstream media as the only legit viable source of information & it’s been proven it’s conflicted, corrupted & flat out lying, you know it’s time to “pop smoke” & check out of blogs, dialogues, discussions, relationships, friendships etc.
Doesn’t look like it’s getting better anytime soon either, no DOUBT “Spartan-like AUSTERE” times ahead for most people…If you can’t see it by now your deluding yourself w/ the BS you’ve been infected with…Bad Ju Ju coming…Look at the loss of rights in general since we started seeing the trends more than 1 year ago. Your not being intellectually honest w/ yourself if you cannot see the changes.
Wanna bet how many people will sell out the their Constitutional Oaths for their found “new religions” … Deus Vult
HOPLOETHOS
I can not agree more with what you said. I like many here have taken that oath and when one takes of the uniform it doesn’t end there like I told my very liberal sister, it’s for life and for as long as I breath I will defend it!
Amen…and i’d say that next to the Israelis we have the largest population of well trained former military civvies in the world. Sure a lot of coutries have 2yr conscript militaries but that’s Jr league…
Agreed. It’s depressing. I just recently had a forum member here challenge me to show any rights we have lost due to the war on terror. He apparently does not think we have lost any…
I’m getting to the point where I can’t differentiate which camp is which since they’re all spoon fed and toe the party line.
It’ll be interesting to see which one of us gets disappeared first under NDAA. And it will be even more interesting to see what bullshit they plant to make the masses cry for that person’s blood, or if it’ll just be POOF, no more Hoploethos, for instance?
Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
“An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to insure our domestic security and protect our Homeland.” - Adolf Hitler
In response to the false flag op that came to be known as the Reichstag Fire Hitler created the Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State.
The decree nullified many of the key civil liberties of German citizens. With Nazis in powerful positions in the German government, the decree was used as the legal basis of imprisonment of anyone considered to be opponents of the Nazis, and to suppress publications not considered “friendly” to the Nazi cause. The decree is considered by historians to be one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany.
And we all know how that worked out for them in the end. . .
shitty thing is that this attitude permeates all aspects of society, I am sick of being judged and forced to defend what should be a no brainer; the concept of being able to defend one’s life and the life of others or survive in a SHTF scenario is almost taboo now, yet every day crazy shit happens all over the country, and just look at how much fucked up shit has happened in the past 100 years.
it’s a bit of a precarious balance you’re bringing up. protecting the homeland and then at the same time going after terrorists.
do we not go after terrorists? because as fervently as many are advocating in this thread it sounds like “we” have assumed the cost of liberty, which is that terrorist attacks are a fact of life and an assumed cost of living freely.
btw, i’m not advocating that we give up our liberties. i’m just trying to get a barometer of the times. a few years ago i had similar discussions and concluded that some day, in order to keep our liberties, the public would have to accept that terrorism happens and is a cost of living freely. that official retribution isn’t possible without some level of compromise for everyone else. the “extrajudicial killing” of anwar al-awlaki is just one of the examples of how if you let a system run for long enough you’ll find all the grey areas that aren’t covered in policy and those grey areas when solidified will either compromise freedom or security.
many many say those who will trade freedom for security deserve neither, however many of those same people also supported the war. it’s… precarious.
I know that it seems like its the worst today, but you have to keep in mind that government interference and intrusion in our lives has exited forever in this country’s history. Its not as if we lived in a fairy tale world were the dual federalism existed peacefully for the first 220 years and then suddenly became corrupt.
1789 President Washington sent 15,000 armed militia from 4 different states to crush the Whiskey Rebellion.
-1798 President Adams signs in to law the Alien and Sedition acts, jailing anyone who wrote “false, scandalous or malicious” accusations about the government.
1860s, Lincoln authorized arrests of media reporters and editors who did not support the war, closed ports, suspended Habeas Corpus in several jurisdictions.
World War II and aftermath dawned a new age of conspiracy and government secrecy. As did the progressive era. Communists = terrorists of the time. People were told to watch for their suspicious behavior and report any possible spies, Communists,ect.
After the Reichstag Fire false flag op Hitler created the Gestapo and passed his Protection of People and State decree in order to “protect the homeland”.
After 9/11 we created the DHS and passed the Patriot Act in order to “protect the homeland”.
As for terrorists, just who are they? The Federal government tells We the People that male Islamic extremist; fifteen from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon carried out the attacks on 9/11. So why do 91 year old American women get stripped searched by the TSA, or toddlers get pat downs and placed on no fly lists?
The DOJ handouts presented in this thread are not targeting the people that we were told terrorized our nation.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
I like many here have taken that oath and when one takes of the uniform it doesn’t end there like I told my very liberal sister, it’s for life and for as long as I breath I will defend it!
