The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) intends to award a non-competitive, sole source purchase order to Anzio Ironworks Corporation, 1905 16th Street N, St. Petersburg, FL 33704 for two (2) Magfed 20mm Rifles and accessories in accordance with FAR 6.302-1, only one responsible source and no other supplies or services will satisfy agency requirements.
The FBI intends to procure the following items:
Magfed 20mm Rifle with Belgian Camo Overcoat finish. Includes bipod, brake, handguard, free floated barrel and case (Qty: 1 each)
Magfed 20mm Rifle with Navy NWV Camo Duracoat finish. Includes bipod, brake, handguard, free floated barrel and case (Qty: 1 each)
Non-firing bolt assemblies (Qty: 2 each)
Extra magazines (Qty: 4 each)
Suppressors in 20mm (Qty: 2 each)
This thing makes their .50 BMG rifle look like a bb gun! :eek:
Really? I would. After seeing a demo of someone else doing it first
Most people say the same thing about a 50 but once they do it the grin would split their head in two. I am thinking the grin after shooting one of these would split your head in 4 or 8 pieces.
It weighs 70+ lbs and is 6 or 7 feet long. I doubt it would be that bad to shoot.
As I said in the other thread we already had on this subject, they’re only buying two of them and they’re going to the gun geeks at Quantico. Probably they just want to see what the gun’s capabilities might be (for both their use and to counter it).
Americans shouldn’t be out-gunned by the government, but so long as Americans insist on leaving the protection of America solely to Big Daddy, Big Daddy should never be out-gunned by badguys.
i have no problem with the FBI having big guns. i have no more love for them than anyone, but they ARE “goodguys”… i think we forget that sometimes.
Are these massive 20mm projectiles capable of the accuracy that the .338, .406, .50, ones are that are currently on the market? Would all that energy that’s left at 3000 meters or whatever crazy distance they’re claiming still be capable of precision? Is it dropping ten feet for every foot of forward flight at that point?
All I know is that somewhere deep down that retarded urge to have the biggest gun on the line is taking over…I’d like to need a back support belt to move my rifle to the firing line.
bigger doesn’t always mean that it’s intended to be used further, or that it needs to have match-like precision. bigger can translate to greater effectiveness against hard targets (vehicles etc) at shorter distances that the ‘smaller’ calibers might not be be as effective against.
I can’t think of to many threats that cannot be neutralized and or immobilized with the various flavors of 20mm munitions. Hijacked trains, aircraft, ships, etc would all be susceptible to its lethality.
In recent memory on 17 May 1995 San Diego PD had a “pursuit” with an ex-soldier who stole an M60 Patton from an Army National Guard Armory and 4 June 2004 in Granby CO a disgruntled business owner up armored a D-9 Caterpillar with steel plates that had twelve inches of concrete between them. In both incidences LE were incapable of stopping the threats and they both ended with the vehicles becoming inoperable after heavy collateral damage. A 20mm HEI would have made short order of those threats.
My thought is that since they’re ordering 2, in 2 different patterns, that they’re expecting these to eventually be operational. Mooseknuckle’s observation about hijacked ships seems reasonable, since one of the camo patterns might be a naval scheme (new navy pattern?)
The Anzio Ironworks website says the max range is 3,000yds or about 1.7 miles. I talked to a guy who was selling one of these weapons last year at the SAR East Gun Show and he said if you and your spotter are good you can put shots on a car-sized target at 3 miles. He was selling it for $13,000 and he said the ammo costs about $8 a round to reload.
Beats me. My NFA knowledge isn’t much either. I just posted what the guy told me about it. I guess it could be either $200 extra per round or it could be $200 extra per purchase.
Having read the NFA handbook I believe the gun itself would have a $200 tax (as a DD) but as long as the rounds weren’t explosive there would be no additional tax on the ammo.
I’m not knowledgeable of the specific NFA regulations but I would assume that a 20mm projectile is classified as a DD and there for each individual round would access the required fees.
