I need a ar in 308 for heavy division in 2&3 gun matches, its either the dd5v1 or lmt mws because i want to buy quality and want to buy once. Im not well educated in the ar10 or 308, so any pointers, feedback, or education is much appreciated. I want something that will run with 168 grain ball 7.62, nothing special as that will be my main round for just practice and matches and want a rifle that runs like a sowing machine. Id rather have more reliability over moa accuracy. So someone steer me away or towards these two companies for ar-10, any help helps thanks guys
LMT would be the gold standard (unless you step up to a KAC SR25). No experience with the DD. Check out SOLGW for good 308 options as well. I have one on the way.
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A buddy of mine has one. He added a lantac break to it and it was a nice soft shooting 308. He had a strike eagle on it then he went and got a 4-16 I think. He used it more to hit out at long range as opposed to a battle rifle. It was a nice rifle. I didn’t care for the furniture on it but that’s me. I have a colt Marc 901 I like.
I would go LMT over the DD. Lots of good feedback on the LMT on this site.
The DD .308 guns could evolve a little more. I expect them to be better in the future, they have a lot of potential with what they do.
I would seriously look at what you plan on doing with this as an end goal, then choose the KAC, LMT, or HK offering that fits the end result best.
A lot of guys are satisfied with the LMT 16" LW chrome lined offering. Just depends on what you want to do?
LMT MWS. I have never regretted the purchase.
If I had to do it again, I’d still pick the LMT.
If you plan on running suppressed I would go DD since the LMT is a bit gassy, if not suppressed, either will serve you well. The MWS is a pig though, I don’t know what kind of matches you are wanting to run, but keep that in mind if weight is a factor, the LW barrel helps some with that. Both will be reliable. You can’t go wrong with either.
My buddy had an LMT with a quad rail and was 16 inch barrel. That was super heavy. Good for a DMR roll but NOT something I would run and gun with. I’d rather use a springfield socom 16 over that LMT. I havent seen much on the DD gun, despite its pre launch hype as suppose to be the propper way to build an AR10. When I was considering an AR10 I decided that I was gonna spend my money on a Savage MSR10 hunter. Seemed to have all the features I wanted.
For a smidge under $2k you can get into the PWS Mk2 which is an outstanding platform if you have not checked them out. I run their 7.62x39 now for everything from deer to hogs to coyotes it’s been a flawless machine for me. My buddy has their 308 and I used it for a time last year was a sweet rig. Especially if you plan on running a can PWS is as worry free as I’ve seen just slap it on and enjoy the enjoy gas block our rifles can and do eat anything you want to feed em.
This isnt what you asked for but FN MG barrel. Damn sweet deal.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen2-pa10-18-mid-length-7-62-nato-1-12-chf-15-lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-and-ch-5165448933.html
I feel very qualified to speak on this since I owned a DD5V1 up until last week. I ONLY sold it to step into a KAC SR-25 ACC. The DD is an EXCELLENT gun. I liked everything about it. It’s a 1/11 twist, do it shoots the Federal 168 GMM fantastically. Always sub MOA. It’s light, super reliable, can’t recall any problems with it. It was seriously the last gun I thought I’d sell. I just got into a KAC SR-25 for a great price from a buddy who has several, and I had to see what all the hype is about. Nothing I didn’t like about the DD. If you go that route, I’d be surprised if you didn’t enjoy it.
Personally, if you want real firepower, I would drop the R and just get an A-10
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I like this.
Seekins or GA Precision would be my first pic. I really like the quasi-monolithic upper (rail mounts to upper not barrel/barrel nut). I personally think this is one of the most often overlooked aspects of precision Ar-10’s. I would also suggest an OBR over the DD. Its a very accurate and proven design.
The DD used a barrel bolt up VERY SIMILAR to the Larue OBR. There is no “barrel nut”. The barrel uses a flange and there are 4 bolts that hold the rail to the barrel flange to the upper receiver. It’s a super solid system. It looks very much “inspired” by Larue. I’ve shot mine for years, and never had one accuracy complaint.
I took the NRA Precision Rifle Instructor School with mine. Shot Federal GMM 168’s through the entire class and did absolutely fine. Is it as refined as my new KAC? No… but it isn’t priced like it either.
You’d think I would’ve googled the DD5 prior to posting that lol. Yep it sure does use that same type of mounting “system”!
DD is doing some things that I am interested in, but for these, I’m looking to see some more development in other places.
Bobby, the LMT is the gold standard for reliability. It is a bit gassy if running suppressed, which I do, but I still love it. I run 147 grain ball ammo MEN from Germany and slap steel to a 1,000 yards, but with great success to 750. Quality ammo do what you wish.
PB
Any reason the LaRue guns aren’t more popular? By all accounts they are exceptional performers. I’ve been eyeballing a PredatOBR.
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From my experience, lots of popped primers and stuck cases. The rifle was accurate, but, reliability went to shit when it got hot.