I rarely post here, but lurk. I, up until last week, used and thought wolf ammo was acceptable. I have run at least 8,000 rounds ( of wolf) through my AR’s. Last week, I took out my LMT and Stag for a bit of training. Both of these guns have been used with wolf and never had a problem with wolf. I got 11 rounds off and had a case stuck in the chamber. Pounded it out and then got off one round and another stuck case. Switched to my LMT and the second round went bang and had a stuck case. Cleared it and then the next round was a stuck case. Maybe it is a bad lot of ammo, or ???. Anyway, I am done with wolf as even back up plinking ammo. I did run mags through both guns with federal and winchester ammo with no problems, hence it is not a gun issue and the chambers were not dirty. After the fed and win, I tried wolf one last time and I had the same problem.
Sounds like a bad lot, were they Polly or lacquered coated cases and what grain bullet? Can you post a Lot # as I would like to check it against the cases I just picked up.
I think he was trying to say one round entered the hole made by a previous one. I’ve heard that term many times on the rifle range (Marine Corps) even though it may not be the correct usage of the term.
Has anyone had bad experience with the Silver Bear zinc coated cases? Sounds like the lacquer or poly may work fine with some rifles and hiccup in others. But are the zinc plated ones pretty much problem free?
I’ve got mostly M193 and M855. Kind of thinking of getting some SB for range practice as it is a couple of buck/box cheaper than M855 now.
No. He was saying that the round failed to stabilize and went through the target at an oblique angle.
Retards on the KD range are notorious for throwing around terms they don’t understand and making the rest up. Makes me pull my effing hair out.
PPD,
It was the WPA and I believe they are poly. I may not be able to find the lot number, as I threw away the box. I will check the other boxes and see if they came from an open case. I will not be able to look for a couple of weeks as I have homes in different states and will not return for a couple of weeks.
I’d love to stock up on Doc’s recommendations, but the cost is just crazy. M885 is still the best choice considering economics and its history in several wars ain’t too bad, but hopefully we will see surplus mk318 at M855 prices in our life times.
Lately m855 has been plentiful and relatively cheap. Combine that with the convenience of being packaged on strippers in the cardboard sleeves and it just makes sense to me.
I recently had a 20% off coupon for Cabelas who had the 420 rnd cans of 855 for $149.95 on sale. Came out to about 28 cents per round, so I bought lots…
If you happen to find the lot number please post it.
I have shot so many cases of Wolf over the years both lacquered and Polly, FMJ/HP/SP and never had issues other then some extra clean up at the end of the day. Sorry to hear you had issues but I would not condemn and entire brand just over a few stuck cases especially after 8000 previous good rounds of Wolf fired.
Was your problems from a single 20rd box of Wolf or from multiple boxes from the same source? Also was the box(s) from a case or purchased separately?
Sorry for so many questions but I shoot so much Wolf I try to see were possible issues lay with other shooters and avoid those lots if the claims are wide spread.
PPD,
It was from more than one 20 round box. I believe it came from the same case. I will check and update as info is available. I too have shot many rounds of wolf over the years from other AR’s, AK’s and pistols without a problem. I have also listened to many others speak about their experience with wolf–via forums, emails, in person etc and seen many rounds go down range with only a few problems. I have also heard of some negative reviews and problems, but would say they are in the minority. None the less, after my experience, I now have a confidence problem with wolf–though it may just be a minor QC issue that could happen to anyone. Therefore, since other quality ammo is available at reasonable prices, I will purchase something other than wolf.
Curious about that myself. Is it due to M855 being NATO approved? I was under the impression the M193 worked just as well or better when using it out of an SBR or at closer distances, less than 100 yards.
