EFF TSA

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I was on the way back to the USA, from a week in Geneva.

Had a lay over in Iceland, where much to my surprise I was selected for a secondary security screening by the TSA idiots.

I find myself in line with a bunch of other white people, that asking around seemed around 98% of us had American passports.

We were treated very rudely, by the Icelandic contractors for the TSA.

We were forced to remove shoes which were swabbed.

We were then told to losen our belts and step up on a box.

The Euro trash fag, looks me in the eye and tells me “I am going to be sticking my hands inside your pants, is that ok”

I replied" Sure it is ok, if it is ok with you that I knock you the F*@k out.

He replied " Do I need to call the police and besides you can’t get on the plane without my hands getting into your pants."

Told him lets get it over with.

I watched woman sob and babies cry in hysterics.

It was a day, I was so proud to be an American.

Got on my flight which had around 30 people on it that were 100% for sure Muslims. But didn’t see those people in line with us. Also sat next to a very nice American black woman on the flight and she had seen a group of us taken off for this crap. She is the one that said she saw no black folk in the line.

I AM NEVER GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN!

I am looking for ways to insure that I will never be molested by agents of the government again.

Our forefathers are so proud of us.

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Just another sad example of what we’ve come to. I think about how to fix this every day…

Sorry to hear this Yoni. Let us know what solution you find for this problem.

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Our forefathers didn’t have terrorists bent on destroying our civilization through the use of civilian airplanes chock full o’ innocents.

What is your proposal to keep airtravel safe without violating your rights?

Is airtravel a right?

Could you not have taken a boat?

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The forefathers were familiar with violent personnel (the king’s men and natives) and the peons often dealt with both.

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Do what Israel does nothing more, nothing less.

Besides you really didn’t read what I wrote they were only checking white Americans and a few white Europeans.

The Muslims on my flight didn’t get checked.

Read before you respond, then you will understand why I am pissed off.

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Since the vast majority that got bagged were American passports, I am looking into the legality of having a different countries passport in the same name as my American passport and book travel on that passport but carry my American with me to go through immigration.

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I’m not a flag waiving supporter of the TSA, however if you were in Iceland when this happened to you, it was not TSA.

TSA is part of the UNITED STATES Dept of Homeland Security. To be fair to the TSA, what you experienced were security protocols from another country’s TSA equivalent. They don’t necessarily carry out all procedures the same way.

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I haven’t traveled abroad in quite some time, but I understand our TSA does check people inbound on flights to the US. This is just what I’ve heard though. What is the truth?

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I know this ISNT an option for you sir…but I went thru some minor, compared to what you just described…shit back in 2005 going/coming back from the NRA Convention in Houston. I havent & WONT fly again.

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I read your post, and while I doubt the validity of your claims, are you suggesting white folk don’t carry out terror attacks?

Again, I ask, what is your proposal to secure flights without violating rights?

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The difference between Israeli airport security and American airport security is several orders of magnitude:

1. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (Georgia, US) – 107.4 million passengers

  1. Beijing Capital International Airport (China) – 101 million
  2. Dubai International Airport (United Arab Emirates) – 89.1 million

4. Los Angeles International Airport (California, US) – 87.5 million

  1. Tokyo’s Haneda Airport (Japan) – 87.1 million

6. Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport (Illinois, US) – 83.3 million

  1. London’s Heathrow Airport (United Kingdom) – 80.1 million
  2. Hong Kong International Airport (China) – 74.5 million
  3. Shanghai Pudong International Airport (China) – 74 million
  4. Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport (France) – 72.2 million
  5. Amsterdam Airport Schiphol (Netherlands) – 71 million
  6. New Delhi’s Indira Gandhi International Airport (India) – 69.9 million
  7. Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport (China) – 69.8 million
  8. Frankfurt Airport (Germany) – 69.5 million

15. Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (Texas, US) – 69.1 million

  1. Seoul’s Incheon International Airport (South Korea) – 68.4 million
  2. Istanbul’s Atatürk International Airport (Turkey) – 68.2 million
  3. Jakarta’s Soekarno-Hatta International Airport (Indonesia) – 66.9 million
  4. Singapore Changi Airport (Singapore) – 65.6 million

20. Denver International Airport (Colorado, US) – 64.5 million

22. John F. Kennedy International Airport – 61.9 million

25. San Francisco International Airport – 57.8 million

29. Seattle-Tacoma International Airport – 49.8 million

30. McCarran International Airport – 49.8 million

34. Orlando International Airport – 47.7 million

37. Charlotte Douglas International Airport – 46.4 million

40. Newark Liberty International Airport – 46 million

43. Miami International Airport – 45 million

44. Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport – 44.9 million

47. George Bush Intercontinental Airport – 43.8 million

out of the top 50

Logan International Airport[ – 41 million

Minneapolis/St Paul International Airport – 37.4

In fact there are 25 airports in the United States which handled more passenger traffic than all of Israel’s airports combined - which was about 23.4 million according to Wiki.

So, yeah, we need to do it like the Israeli’s, that will work.

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Probably more of a hassle and flagging issue when the manifest doesn’t have you on the flight as a US citizen…

I didn’t go through it but in Frankfurt the airport map had some TSA locations marked. I’ve been ‘SSSS’ in Japan coming back on a connection from China And been swabbed and fondled.

He gave you the answer, but you’ve never flown in and out of Israel? They play man-to-man defense and depend less on who hid the sports drink or nail file.

There are literally MTs of stuff coming in to the airport along with people from terrorist countries, but we endure the security theatre upstairs.

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Interesting…

Yet in Israel they are pretty discriminatory towards who boards, when, and how by nationality, race, and religion.

Also the TSA person announced he was going to pat-frisk you and you threatened him.

Dont take this the wrong way, but if I am on hour 8 of a 12 hour shift and some dude threatens to hit me for doing my job; he can expect to be tackled, tased, and charged with obstruction and terroristic threats.

I am a shady looking guy and I’ve never gotten TSA looking treatment and everytime I have to get wanded or searched; I just accept it.

These are White People Problems, yoni.

There was a time when people could expect weeks at sea and now they fly through the air like Greek Gods on Iron Chariots across the world in a day and still complain…

sheesh

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First of all I was on the flight on my American passport, the one I got by being born in the USA.

Second regarding Israeli methods they can be up scaled to meet American needs.

Third, the people were contractors to the TSA. All the posters on the wall were TSA USA.

Lastly, ost of you seem to accept this as what should be normal. I have no doubt you will do the same thing when guns are outlawed in the USA.

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I sympathize with you sir.

Outside of using private or corporate planes, how would one avoid TSA?

Would having TSA Precheck status afford a traveler better treatment?

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I have never not had to remove my shoes.

If they want to see what’s in my pants, I’m taking them off and handing them my pants.

Getting worked up is pointless and just means they will detain you longer.

It’s BS because if I was wearing a shemagh I’d probably be waived right through.

Sadly the terrorists won in 9-11 and successfully changed OUR way of life. Rather than profile “likely” terrorists they do “random screening” of the people least likely to be a terrorist. Always annoys me when they are shaking down some old lady.

Once upon a time I could walk my wife to the gate and watch her plane take off and when I flew home my family was at the gate to welcome me.

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You probably shouldn’t make that assumption.

I have decided to pretty much never fly again unless it’s absolutely necessary. It’s their plane and their company, kinda like hiring a car service. Their shit, their rules.

If they say you can’t fly in sandals, well then you can’t fly in sandals. It’s hardly the same as losing your right to vote, publish your thoughts or arm yourself.

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Nope, some of the people had TSA Precheck status.

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Nope, some of the people had TSA Precheck status.

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Did you take the time to enlighten them as to the proclaimed superiority of Israeli airport screening methodologies? Or are you just mad you didn’t receive preferential treatment?

I honestly can’t tell

Also, having worked with the Israeli prime minister security folks and coming away not all impressed it strikes me as bit short sighted to suggest one way is the end all be all of ways to do something.

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