Dutch Intelligence Service (AIVD) delivering solid proof Russia Hacking US elections

AIVD proof of Russia hack

Lessee if the Don can call ‘fake news’ on this.

Interesting what makes headline news overseas doesn’t even raise an eyebrow here.
Its only our elections.

Yeah. :rolleyes:

Sorry your girl lost.

I didn’t ‘Ja, lk accepteer cookies’ because I didn’t know if it was available in English.

What do they mean by ‘hacking’ - actually trying to manipulate vote counts, or actions meant to influence voters?

I don’t call the latter hacking.

It isn’t.

Unless.the Russians changed the vote count, this is old news.
Countries trying to influence the results of an election by swaying public opinion is as old a tactic as there is.
BTW, we do the same and sometimes much worse to other Nations.
The radical difference this time is our own intelligence agencies were working against a candidate and later when that candidate won the election, a sitting POTUS.

This is what is implied to a dim-witted audience when the dreaded “Russian hacking” is mentioned, and they buy it hook line and sinker. Yet there has never been (to my knowledge) any official accusations of voting machine tampering by the Rooskies. Hell, we have our own Democrats for that!

Yes, the simple-minded hear “Russian hacking” and the first thing that pops into their pea brains is “OMG! The Russians altered votes!” It couldn’t be further from the truth.

That was the M.O. of the U.S. government during the Cold War: If the wrong person won an election in some banana republic, drop the CIA or Green Berets in and start a coup.

I don’t get what the end game with the whole Russia thing is. Do they think it’s going to result in a reversal of the election?

Ermygawd! Some foreign news agency I’ve never heard of said the Russians hacked our election! We should have a total do-over!

Yes. Of course.

The Dutch shall be Trumps totally undoing. Yep. Mmhmm.

I bet the FBI will spin his ass outta the Oval Office like a top.

I hear they are working in shifts.

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I have had encounters with both SÄPO (Swedish Secret Police) and Dutch AVID. The Swedes have a more ruthless operation than the Dutch, but that’s for a different discussion.

An article for your edification on AVID from zdnet.com:

Dutch intelligence is a joke - just not the way you think
When the Netherlands’ intelligence agency took to Twitter to answer questions from Dutch citizens, hilarity really did ensue.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/dutch-intelligence-is-a-joke-just-not-the-way-you-think/

ik donthq thynkey trhyumpq iks gointgs to be to scared of these dutch cookies, ja?

Hacking the DNC is not hacking the election. Hacking the DNC is hacking the DNC.

Spamboting Facebook is not hacking the election. Spamboting Facebook is spamboting Facebook.

Anyone else want to try selling the same old false narrative? :rolleyes:

I’m not certain what this has to do with DJT. The elections and build up were between 2014 and November 2016. During that time Obama was on deck and he stated clearly that our election process is 100% secure and there is no credible threat of hacking capable of influencing the vote. Was he lying?

Not that it matters. Supposedly, the hackers exposed accurate information about the candidates and the activities of the DNC. Instead of hurting America, they should be hailed as heroes for stopping a corrupt association from gaining more power in the USA.

The real issue here isn’t that a foreign nation acted EXACTLY like the USA has done, is doing and will continue to do; but rather if the DJT knew or somehow enabled it.

If there is proof that DJT enabled or participated in this activity, aside from random accusations, I’ll gladly toss him under Gitmo and lobby for the max allowed penalty for treason.

This is America. If a drug dealer outs a serial killer, we focus on the fact that the drug dealer is a bad person and had no right to turn in a serial killer. Cause you know, priorities are important and stuff.

F the Dutch, almost as bad as the people from Holland, but not as bad as those bastards from the Netherlands.

You’d think with orange as their favorite color, they’d be more pro Trump.

That’s EXACTLY what I thought of when I read the thread title!

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. Does this mean Hillary gets to be president now?

It’s over for Trump.

We c-can’t let him get his hands on the n-nuclear button, r-right g-guys?

It’s her turn!

The basic premise of Trump colluding with Russia is false. He is the last person Putin, and the boys wanted in power. Russia gets a large amount of Revenue from fossil fuel ENERGY. One of Trump’s top campaign promise, and current U.S. policy is to maximize U.S. domestic energy resources mostly oil, natural gas, and coal. This can only add to the worldwide supply, and keep prices stable. This is NOT what the Russians want. They want higher, and higher energy prices to maximize revenue. Energy is how a lot of Russians got rich, and provides a lot of revenue to the Russian government.