It’s getting down to the wire, I’ll have the funds to get one or the other from BCM. It’ll be a 16 inch SS410 barrel and can’t decide on either the Larue 12" rail or Vltor VIS 12". Isn’t the Vltor VIS rifle length monolithic upper in the $700-800 range alone? BCM has this upper listed at $1085, while the Larue upper is $875. Am I wrong in thinking the Vltor upper is a smoking hot deal? I want to do this Recon build right, which one should I go with. I also want something new and kinda unique. It’s got to be one or the other, can’t afford to do both or two Recon builds.
The VIS has a unique appeal that few others match to my eye. If you are looking for something that is different than the typical rail and upper, the VIS is a solid choice. Its a little heavier, but thats about the only negative I could find in a world of positives. The heavy duty reinforced construction, good looks (subjective I know), and uninterrupted rail make it an easy choice in my mind.
Here is a quick picture of one of my VIS uppers… and just because I know that one of our LMT fans is going to bring up the MRP (very nice as well), I’ll throw in a picture of one of those also.
This is the direction I am going. ACS stock, MOE grip, Colt Tactical Carbine lower and VIS 12 upper. Glassware will be Mark AR 1.5 and LT104. BUIS will be Troy micros.
Monolithic uppers, while a bit heavier then their brethren, are incredibly tough and can take crazy abuse.
One of our local county sherriff’s deputies dropped his nearly brand new rifle about 30 ft onto concrete during an external ingress drill. (he was reppelling down the outside of a firetower at the local FD’s training center when his QD release for his sling went south.)
Damage to the rifle?
Minimal.
Three dings and a couple of surface scratches but, no serious damage to speak of.
He had his front sight damaged beyond repair and hit T-1 was destroyed. (we think that’s what hit first)
After replacing his front sight and checking everything for alignment and function I fired it. No loss of function and it shot just as nicely as before.
I haven’t tried running over one with a vehicle yet. I’m sure one of the guys will do that sometime soon.
Although I’m thinking I’m not the LMT fan Stick was refering to, but in your position I’d run with the VIS as well. The area the MRP excels in if perhaps you train in 556 and carried 6.8 or you wanted to have a shorty bbl and reach-out-n-touch something barrel: 10.5 and 18" bbls for example on a SBR’d lower. But I like the VIS alot, and it appeals to me because you could put a different caliber other than .204 or 6.8 in it at a later date.
Seems like a good deal on the VIS, I think I’d go that route. I have an MRP, but the VIS is a very solid choice…I actually think I would prefer the VIS in rifle length to a rifle length MRP.
I am sure I am the one in question…that said, I have never once rec’d the MRP when somebody had not listed it as an option for them and thus for this thread I would easily pick the VIS as its unquestionably the better platform in which to build accuracy from.
Man, I’m torn. I can only do one so I can move on to my SPR mk12 Mod0 project. I really don’t need a tank, more of a bench queen, gong ringer, prairie dog popper, tactical varminter. My high speed, haji door kicking days are over.
This is horrible. It’s like strawberry lemonade kool-aid vs wild cherry kool-aid and both are spiked with poison! :sarcastic:
I think I’m going with an all Larue build…LT104, Larue bipod mount/harris combo, larue rail. I’m from Tx and dam proud.
To me the Larue has the sexy hour glass figure and curves and I’ll be using a LT104 at the edge of the upper. When I think sexy rails, I think Larue. :sarcastic:
ETA: I have craved a VIS rifle lenght for a long, long time but they were $800 at Rainier Arms when they had them in stock, then I’d still have to consider getting a barrel worthy of it like the Noveske (can’t remember which one…the Noveske Afghan/Recon or BCM SS410.
In the long term, I think I’d get 2 BCM uppers (Recon and a PRI SPR) for the price of a complete Noveske. I’d have a good start to a nice modular system.
Just ordered the Larue rail Recon upper from BCM. I asked them to remove the A2 flash hider (I’m replacing it with a battlecomp 1.0) and to send a BCM ballcap schwag and stickers, hehe. Christmas is coming early this year, I hope to have it done by Christmas or before!
The VIS is nice no doubt and I was considering it for my SPR build but the way I saw it, anything forward of the barrel nut was no longer effecting accuracy beit a FF LaRue rair or a VIS so the only thing I was gaining with a VIS over a upper & rail combo was waight and robustness. I don’t expect to be repelling down buildings with this thing anytime soon, so the strengths of the VIS went away and all that was left was the added weight and cost. The uninterrupted rail is sweet, but I just used an EER scope mount from LaRue to move the scope forward.
It is a unique look for sure. But it was not worth the price for me.
The MRP is a solid option that is worth considering when people are looking for a superior product, hopefully neither LMTRocks nor you took my comment as a cheap shot. I think the days of a large gap between the rail and receiver are over personally. When KAC developed that style of rail (and were copied by the rest of the world), it was a game changing concept. They have moved past that as have most other manufacturers. I think this is also part of the reason we see a surge in monolithic uppers right now.
Again, no shot at you guys, and I like seeing your LMT posts. The only reason you don’t see more LMT images from me is because I don’t own anything of theirs (aside from 2 BCGs). I have to borrow LMT items for shots with their product.
