Agreed!! Most cameras have this newfangled thing called a timer that can produce the same results. :rolleyes:
Just when you think you’ve seen the dumbest thing in the world, something like this shows up to prove you wrong. I can’t wait to see what tops this one. :rolleyes:
My favorite pictures. 
I was not there in that class by I recognize that range where the video was taken. The photographer appeared to be part of the TR staff.
Without knowing the whole story behind the video, I will not condemn it or the participants.
I agree as you can see the foreshortening affect in a couple of his photos (background seems really close to the subject). You see that in Hollywood when say a big truck / bus is chasing our hero and it looks like it is on top of him but in reality it could be a block away from him.
As for the guy in the video;
Tripod = $50
Wireless camera remote = $45
Making sure you are out of harms way and don’t get shot = priceless
Todd’s never going to place himself at unnecessary risk. 
P.S. I did note that you don’t seem to be in the same position as the photographer in the video. Your shots seem to be taken from a safer angle.
Precisely. You can get some really good shots from a completely safe angle.
The video shows, however, that the guy was literally right next to the targets with a group of shooters using live fire right by his anatomy.
EDIT:
What does that tattoo say?
Damn he’s dumb.
I heard that Dave will be more than happy to tell you what it says.
I believe it says something about minding one’s business 
I know what it says but I can’t tell you.
Tactical Response - google the owner “James Yeager + Edinbourough Risk”
Some things will come into focus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8alt5C-yc4
He is the driver of the lead car…
In all seriousness, I’m sure this is going to turn into a big brouhaha in some places as people try to turn it into a debate about the 180 degree range rules.
I don’t see this as a 180 degree range mindset issue. There is such a thing as training with people “downrange” and it’s done in very specific contexts for very specific reasons. Getting pictures is not one of them. Thus the 180 degree defense isn’t really valid. We’re still presented with a situation in which somebody is right beside the friggin’ targets while live fire is going on just so he can get some pictures. The risk/reward calculation that is often discussed in 180 degree rule debate threads doesn’t apply.
Knowing that this came from “Tactical Response” and the players involved there I am not shocked at all.
To think that man has been able to even lead a semi-productive life being that stupid is just amazing.
And the idiotic look of empowerment on the one goofball shooter’s face when he turns around…:rolleyes:
Ya think? 
sorry, but none of your shots are worth risk to anyone. Setting up a remote system would be easy and give you a lot more options without risk of injury or death.
(1) Setting up a remote system doesn’t let me see what the camera is looking at or controlling things like zoom, DOF, etc.
(2) With the people pictured and my actual position, I was less at risk taking those photos than I was while shooting at the local indoor range today.
P.S. I did note that you don’t seem to be in the same position as the photographer in the video. Your shots seem to be taken from a safer angle.
As I said in my first post, there’s a huge difference between simply being “downrange” and literally sitting between two targets that students are blasting on at nearly point blank range.
Right. Again, some people believe that everything on one half of the planet is “downrange” and therefore a sacrosanct area which no living being should occupy. I don’t fall into that category.
(yeah, I know I just set myself up)
2 were at close proximity and one of those 2 was directly in the LOF. He knelt directly under his pal for the one shot, and he had his other buddy point the AR at the camera.
Same guy, different day.
While I am not going to get into what it actually says, there are two answers you’ll get from Super Dave depending on who you are when you ask.
If you are a really hot chick who does not appear to be immediately attached to a guy for the evening, the answer you will get is, “That’s my sister’s name. I had it tattoo’d to my arm after she died of breast cancer a few years back so I will never go a day without thinking of her.” (Dave does not have a sister)
If you are just about anyone else, Dave will look at the tattoo and pretending to read it will tell you, “It says … none of your fucking business.” (which is also not the case)
I got to see both in one night, it was pretty funny.
This guy either has balls the size of cantelopes or major issues at home!!!
Its definitely Jay from TacResp, James is running spin control over at GotX to try and control the situation. The vid is making it the rounds all over the dramaweb as we speak. Right, wrong or in different, TR has a history of showboating unsafe practices such as this, placing pyrotechnics on students, etc.
I am not surprised at all by this video.
The thread on GOTX is fucking unbelievable.
“Stay the fuck out of our world!!”
Jesus.
Somebody please tell me when the fuck TR took out the patent on gunfighting and the “warrior” way. I must have missed it.
We had Sarnof make what became known as the “videoflashlight” and install it at the shoothouse in NW Chesapeake a few years ago. We transitioned it over to a program of record since than it it is being installed at ranges throughout the Marine Corps. The critical part initially was getting a good lidar done to accurately model the range facility.
Since that time, it has become mobile, you might want to take a look at this system. The camera tracks whatever you designate it to and you can remotely control the camera reatures without touching the camera. You could easy have cameras tracking all of your shooters and conduct a very good AAR when the shooting is completed. We do this with our CQB bubbas…you might want to look into this.
Saw some names defending that nonsense that I recognized from elsewhere as belonging to people I thought knew better.
I’m glad they think they’re so better than the rest of us who don’t take such risks. I’m definitely glad I was warned off them.