My liberal friends are falling all over themselves about how great dear leaders Iran deal is and my conservative friends say it’s the end times. It seems to me that it doesn’t really matter. I thought Israel has been covertly sabotaging Iranian nuclear aspirations for some time now, key scientists go missing, labs catch fire… and so on.
And if Iran does get the bomb would Israel really sit idly by and wait for Iran to hit them first?
Am I wrong?
Israel cannot afford to allow any other country in their part of the world to strike first. Once Israel strikes Iran, we are going to get sucked into World War III. It may not happen within days, but it will happen.
This^…If Israel takes a run at Iran, this is exactly what will happen…And unlike WWII where the U.S. suffered virtually no damage, this time around we’ll get hit…hard… Might not be a bad idea to start reading up on building a bomb shelter…
Nope.
The Saudi’s will ‘let’ them bomb them and make lots of noise afterwards but do nothing. The Russians are going to go full attack over Iran, Shiite no.
Exactly. Israel is entirely too compact to allow anybody to strike first, or even to let somebody to have the option of a first nuclear strike option. A single nuke strike would devastate the country.
Israel has been slowing down the Iranian program for years, but it’s become apparent that they can’t stop it via subterfuge, or diplomacy. That leaves the military option, and while it’s hardly ideal, I think it’s only a matter of time before they act.
I would say arm up if they do but if the bomb comes into play, we will be SOL.
Israel simply isn’t up to the task of actually invading and occupying- the only medicine that would actually stop a bomb. Aerial campaigns would actually push Iran to acquire a bomb.
As far as using their massive arsenal to maintain absolute nuclear hegemony in a first strike nuclear attack and potentially killing millions to make sure that Iran never builds one weapon, I doubt it. Their best and only real shot was to wag the dog and get the U.S. to do their dirty work.
Besides, how would the U.S. react to that? First strike nukes is something we literally pull our hair out and wail hysterically that Iran might do. If Israel uncorks are we then supposed to cover their asses and pretend that they had to do it?
Seemed to work in Iraq and Syria, where as this administration’s method’s predecessor in North Korea was a colossal failure.
Muslims have no problems killing other Muslims. Ask anyone who has been to Iraq or Afghanistan. Should Iran get nukes, my thought it that they may decide on the ultimate gamble and use it against Israel. There will be no second thoughts about other Muslim casualties, fall out spreading into Jordan, Lebanon or elsewhere.
I think that Israel looks at this POV and will have to decide if a first strike is their best option. It’s anyone’s guess what is going to happen. One thing for sure is that we made the stupidest deal in the world, with a country that we cannot trust, and is a sponsor of terrorist groups. Our continued weakness is just making things worse.
I would hope that the Saudi’s will strike first.
That might be the only way to avoid an all out exchange between the three major players. I can see Russia having it’s hands tied if the Saudi’s decided to take action, but if Israel does, not so much.
Pretty much, and we’ll do it too, that’s how we’ll get sucked in…
The Iran deal has done nothing more than touch off a nuclear arms race in the middle east. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Qatar…will all have to have nukes now.
Israel may have waited too long to attack Iran. I understand there is a provision in the Iran deal that forces the US to defend Iran from any attacks on their nuclear sites. That puts us in a position to have to shoot down Israeli planes.
I’m still waiting on us to strike Saudi… what has it been now, 14 years since 9/11?
We both know that will never happen.
Them and the UAE.
Mossad will make it look like an accident, Iran will experience a “China Syndrome” no doubt.
Well that or implement a false flag against the West and make it look like Iran so we do the heavy lifting for them.
From this thread:https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?167461-Why-Don-t-We-Let-Israel-Negotiate-The-Iranian-Nuclear-Issue
Israel’s only chance is to do something clandestine. They can’t stop Iran with overt air strikes unless they make it a suicide mission and even then there is no guarantee of success. At most they would only set them back a few more years. And that’s assuming Iran doesn’t already have a weapon completed that they just haven’t tested yet.
We’d handle the same way we handled Egypt’s military coup of course.
Since the Iranian facilities are thought to be too deep for conventional “bunker buster bombs” there are, as mentioned, numerous options:
Either way of the three (or more I missed) - I do NOT believe for ONE second Israel will allow Iran to reach fruition of their ushering in of the 12th Imam. Something is going to happen. It will be nukes - just from which side and to whom?
Anyone who thinks Iran’s program is for energy is an idiot. There is one goal with these types. Would you allow the imminent death of your family?
I would imagine Mosad doing something in the shadows. They have already disappeared a couple Iranian scientists, what’s a few dozen more. Accidental melt down, a small Iranian Chernobyl.