The roll marks on their lower or the parts on their gun??? I occasionally stick my head into the custom build forum, AR pic thread, etc and when I see a pirate, a zombie, bio hazard symbol or two male organs trying to crush a bug I immediately think the following things about the owner:
Owns an AR because “it is cool!”
Has never attended professional taught training class.
Probably has no idea what they are talking about.
Thinks that Wolf and Tula makes “good” ammo.
Thinks that it is possible that there will actually be a zombie apocalypse.
These are just some of the thoughts that run through my head. I know that stereo types are wrong and have friends that own one of these lowers and they DO attend training and are intelligent people that do not fantasize about shooting the undead.
Am I alone on this??? Just curious if anyone else judges people by their lower choice.
*Please don’t send me hate mail because I insulted your lower of choice.
I don’t believe many people follow the old “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” adage… myself included. Naturally, I feel the same way as you but also know a small handful of folks with gimmicky lowers who train hard and often.
The problem with judging people is the same across all forms. You have to lump them all in one group. Which is impossible because there are too many roads to get to the same spot.
I’m guessing that a number of different factors are involved.
People that fall into your stereotype.
People looking for a cheap lower that happened to have that shit on it.
People whom started out in your stereotype and then realized that there was more to it and decided to get more training ect.
People that bought them to have an extra around due to worry from another ban. (2008)
I’m a little more generous in my assessment. But after the DPMS LOWER , coupled with a “all AR’s are the same” comment. My mind and thoughts digress quickly.
But I don’t care as long as he is a gentleman. Its the guy that is an asshole behind the counter and speaks down to a curious customer then says 10 stupid things.
I’ve been guilty of sterotyping but, it’s really never just the rollmark for me. I usually look at the rifle as a whole and if it’s completely decked out in chicom knockoffs, that’s when I think the things you’ve listed.
At first I use to think that too. The folks I do know that own rifles with those lowers also own other “high end” lowers which they use primarily for training, competition, etc. I do see an increase of those types of lowers showing up to our courses though. And yes they often malfunction compared to other quality builds. After talking to them about it, I’ve found they were built from a stripped lower. At least I don’t see any issued/duty rifles with these roll marks on them.
All true. My post was somewhat tongue in cheek and I know it is wrong to ASSume, but sometimes I just cannot help myself. I think I need counseling. :jester:
What lower has two male organs trying to crush a bug??? Just curious which one that is so that I never end up with one of those.
I too pass judgement based on the roll marks. But only when they say it is “just as good as Colt”, or when they say the .mil uses it. That usually happens at the gun shows or shops. My friends are all educated enough on AR’s to stay away from the junk. The one who has a BM admits his isn’t as good as, and has made a couple improvements to increase reliablity.
The things you mentioned denote a lack of knowledge. Exactly what the NATURE of this deficiency is can vary, though.
I got my GF into ARs when she saw a Spike’s zombie-marked lower which she then bought as her first rifle. Later that week I got her to purchase a 6920 after explaining some stuff to her.
Some folks own silly lowers because they were cheap. Others own them as a joke. If it gets them to the range, I don’t care as long as they’re safe and get out shooting. Hell, my first AR was a post-ban Bushmaster with a horrible chinese red-dot, “sniper” pistol grip (with the disc thing at the bottom), full A2 stock and OEM 10-rd mag. I eventually saw the light because I got into it deeper and deeper, but it all started with that silly setup.
However, if they spout off nonsense and “don’t know what they don’t know”, we have a problem.
Amen Grant. I was recently referred to, get this, it is new to me, as a, “Another Tier queer” for trying to talk a guy into buying a Colt 6920 as his first M4 variant. Simply because I stated some facts about why a Colt is a better choice than some.
Just as a newb question, when I say that my current rifle (BCM 14.5" mid with Battle comp and DD OMEGA, BCM lower) is “just as good” as the Colt M4 I put through so much torture over seas, am I being accurate?
Serious question. I did my research before buying, but never heard that comparison.
I think the whole zombie craze is ridiculous and I find it hard to believe that any of those folks would attend a carbine course with that on their rifle.
That being said, I think most people should be judged by their skills and whether they are taking the time and effort to improve themselves instead of being judged based upon whether they have a snake or a spider plastered on the side of their lower.
