Diagnose This Crazy Malfunction

Ok, here is one that make wrack some brains. I figured it out, but it took a while. Let’s see what you guys come up with.

HDLS type comes in and says that his 14.5 Bushy is malfunctioning. While he was on R/R I had already replaced the gas rings, reamed the chamber, replaced the bolt carrier (he had one of those LMT “enhanced” POS’s in there) conducted a headspace check, and did a complete TI. Everything should have been good.

I ask him what it’s doing and what ammo he is shooting. He says that the bolt only comes back part way and the casing is sticking in the chamber. His weapon was also pretty dry. He said that he was shooting Lake City M855. I checked everything again and told him to give it another shot. He comes back 15 minutes later and says it’s still doing the same thing. At this point I am thinking gas tube or gas port is shot. Since we don’t have a borescope here I change out the gas tube and tell him try it again. I also gave him a different batch of ammo.

He comes back about 20 minutes later and says that it is still malfunctioning and there has been no change.

Anyone have any thoughts as to what the cause was?

Is the buffer binding or preventing the BCG from its movement in some way? Sounds like its not traveling all the way back and it should be if the gas system is 100%.

I was thinking that or a rifle length buffer. But I assume that IG had already checked that out. The only other thought was a bent RE.

-DM-

You said his weapon was pretty dirty. Did that have something to do with it? Also was there something blocking the rearward movement of the bolt carrier?

Broken gas key bolt? - the front one?

Scratch that… you said you replaced the carrier.

The weapon was pretty clean and after I told him it was dry we lubed it with Militec-1. How many guesses do we go until I reveal the cause?

Drop some hints as to what area. :confused:

Buffer area?

Fire control group?

Gas port not drilled?

Five more. It gonne be soemthing crazy and retarded. Like clogged gas port cause the guy needs a place to hide his jerk off tissues.

-DM-

Foreign object in Fire Control group?

(causing the hammer to drag the bottom of the carrier)

Rifle buffer in a carbine tube?

bad mag.

Bolt carrier area

Q tip head stuck in carrier key? No gas port under the key?

-DM-

Did you check operator head space?

receiver rug to keep popped primers out of FCG? Loose accu wedge?

Ok, I won’t keep you guys in suspense much longer. Here is what happened.

HDLS type was not shooting M855 ammo as he claimed and as a matter of fact when I pressed him he couldn’t positively ID the ammo. I later determined that he was shooting Prvi Partizan 62gr. SS109 ammo. This ammo had been causing problems in our carbines previously (popped primers).

So essentially what happened was that a primer popped and went inside the bolt carrier key and when the bolt went forward the gas tube forced it all the way into the carrier key. I have never seen this happen ever and I was like WTF.

I told my wife about it and also told her to go buy 25.00 in lottery tickets because the odds of that happening are probably a million to one. If anyone is curious as to how tight a fit it is, try it sometime.

But wouldn’t have replacing the carrier have fixed that?

No, because the carrier that he had (LMT enhanced) was replaced weeks ago. This happened today while he was shooting with the BM carrier that replaced the LMT.

Okay, based on how you posed the question, it made it seem as if “we’d just replaced the BCG, so that wasn’t a problem…”.

That being said, that is a pretty oddball malfunction.

I thought that SS109 spec had crimped primers.