Whoa!! Providing a good service should come from within one’s self. I don’t get tips for “doing a good job” at work. The pay is the same whether I do a shit job or a good job. It’s a matter P-R-I-D-E. I CHOOSE to do the best I can because that’s the type of person I am. I don’t need a pat on the back or a tip to influence me to do a better job.
That’s actually funny. Like that’s a separate service? I pay Dominos for a pizza, they offer to deliver it. Done.
Good thing firemen & EMS don’t have that attitude…
I believe you have what I am saying wrong. There is something that comes with the job, as shitty of a job as it is, and it is called discretion. If two houses are right next to each other and they both order pizza at the same time, with one known as not tipping and one that tips well, who gets their pizza first? I am not advocating not doing ones job. I am simply stating that if you don’t tip, you don’t get the same level of service as other people who do tip.
Which pizza company do/did you work for? So I know which company allows that type of environment. The free market kicks ass.
On topic, I have a lot of family in the food service industry, but I find myself in more of a European mindset regarding tipping, like many here.
A tip is a tip, not a tax. If I get good service, I’ll tip 20%+. If I get lackluster service, I’ll tip 5-10% if I intend to visit again. If I get terrible service, I’ll speak to the manage and not tip at all.
On one hand, tip is a bonus for going above and beyond. In the case of delivery food, delivering the food on time, without error, and bringing the proper condiments that is expected of you is not exceptional service, it’s the job you’re paid for. And guess what, most companies attach a “delivery fee” to delivery orders too. You are not entitled to a tip by simply being average at your job. You’re never entitled to a tip, but in my case at least, you’ll get one.
On the other hand, the idea that a restaurant can pay you less than minimum wage because of tips… I have mixed feelings on that. On one hand, minimum wage should be the minimum because tips are not mandatory. On the other hand, I don’t always like the concept of a minimum wage. If raising the minimum wage is bad, is lowering or removing the minimum wage good? But in either case, although the minimum wage can be lowered for restaurant service employees, the difference between their lower-than-minimum-wage and actual minimum wage must be met by tips every paycheck or else the employer must make up the difference out of pocket. So is it really lower than minimum wage?
By the way, regarding mandatory gratuity/tips, especially for large parties dining in, it’s state-dependent on whether or not those are actually mandatory or not. If it was agreed to, it’s a verbal contract and then it usually is mandatory. But again, some states have decided that as they’re gratuity/tip rather than a straight up additional charge, by their nature they’re voluntary.
Did I say that the pizza doesn’t get delivered? Lets put it this way: a fireman gets two calls at the exact same time. One for an abandoned warehouse reporting a trash can fire, and a 3 story apartment building that is occupied… Hmm…
My problem is the company charging an additional “delivery fee”. I always thought that money went to the driver, until recently, and that cut into the amount I was tipping them.
I think the whole system of underpaying employees and making the customer tip them to compensate is jacked up. That said, it is what it is and I’m not gonna take it out on the guy or girl just trying to make a living or bring in some money while in school. I always tip.
And yes, they certainly did choose the job and they do have the freedom to find another profession if they don’t like non-tippers. But if they all did that, who would bring my lazy ass my pizza?
Like it or not, this is the nature of the food delivery industry.
And to whoever said they don’t tip the pizza guy AT ALL, I hope for your sake that your job is recession proof and you never have to take a job in the food service industry. Im NOT saying to tip well regardless of service, but I believe a tip is warranted for delivery. They may make more than a typical waiter, but the restaurant doesn’t cover their gas or maintenance of their vehicle. Sure its THEIR CHOICE, but sometimes its a choice between this job to provide for their family or not being able to provide at all. Or would you rather them go on welfare and you pay them anyway and not have your carbs delivered to you…
No I am comparing a person who prioritizes things in their life. A person can only do one thing at a time and everyone puts the highest priority things at the top of a list while the lowest priority items at the bottom of a list. If anyone says they treat everyone exactly the same, regardless of the situation, I will call you out and say you are a liar. When every order comes through as a piece of paper and a bag, priorities are made based on risk vs reward, and the only constant variable in all of this is the tip amount. The order is already set and made, the address doesn’t change, traffic sucks no matter what, and the order ins’t going to get any shorter just because you are having a bad day. So, what makes certain orders float to the top of the list vs who doesn’t? Part of it is delivery distance, route, and traffic, but most of it is weather they are known as a good tipper or not.
A very well known dealer on these boards mocks and ridicules customers who want to spend their money at their store, but this community dog piles and laughs along to get their lulz. I won’t drag a companys name through the mud, Koshinn, for your entertainment.
No shit. One of the companies I worked for charged $1.75 for each delivery. What was that for? Their insurance and liability for having a delivery driver. How much did the driver get? $.50 a delivery. After tips, delivery fees, and wage, I was making about $12 per hour on average. $15 if I was lucky, and that was supposed to cover the $200 per week I spent on gas and the 500 miles per week I drove on my car.
First in line, closest, some rational objective basis rather than the butt-hurt I feel from the last time I delivered a pizza there. When you start basing the quality of your work on how you were tipped by the customer, it’s a real short step to spitting in the pizza (or worse) of the customers you don’t like.
I was one who said I don’t tip pizza delivery people. If I’m paying cash, I let them keep the change. If that’s $1 or $3.67 or whatever, but if I pay with card or check, then I don’t. My fat ass also only orders pizza two or three times/year, so I doubt I get put on the pizza hit list, but whatever.
Like Ryno12 said, I want pizza, Dominoes offers to deliver it for a nominal fee. Done. I owe nothing further for the delivery person doing their job. Period.
I go to work everyday and do my job to the best of my ability. Most days I don’t even like it, but I don’t do a shittier job because people don’t tip me or tell me I’m special. I suck it the **** up, because only I can change it and I filled out the application that got me here. Nobody owes me anything.
That’s the thing I get from all this. My job sucks because YOU’RE not generous enough. Most of you saying this would make great govt employees.
Ok, I get what you’re saying now. Honestly, if you have two orders that go out at the same time. The route should be the deciding factor on who gets their pizza first, not the tip factor. It should be a matter of time & mileage efficiency. Would you drive right past a known bad tipper’s house to deliver a pizza across town first?
I don’t like the whole ideology of tipping, be it food service or any other services. Some tight ass, somewhere decided to screw over their own employees & make the customers pay the wages. Nah ah. Pay your employee a fair wage & discipline them if they’re not doing an acceptable job.
I’ve never waited tables or delivered pizza. BUT these jobs cease to exist the moment you stop tipping, and what remaining full service restaurants there are become so expensive as to be out of the reach of the normal person. The whole reason waiter/waitress salaries are exempt from government regulating their salaries at the minimum wage is that restaurants can’t afford to charge what they charge, and still hire everyone at a full salary.
It doesn’t matter whether or not you like the system. It IS the system. At a restaurant you didn’t order a waiter, they just sort of showed up and implied they’d go get your food and drinks for no added cost right? Why tip them? I’m sorry, but this is a ridiculous line of logic…which somehow is more justifiable if we make it a difference of ideology instead of etiquette or class.
Return on your investment, in this case time and opportunity cost, are objective criteria for prioritization if all thigs are equal. I am not advocating going out of your way to make a shitty tippers day slower or worse, just that they will be lower on the priority list because of their lack of tip. Drivers only reason to deliver is to get the tips, for better or worse. To be honest, I hated that my entire living was based on tips and that is why I took the first steady rate job that got me out of a tip job.
On the flip side of that, don’t feel entitled to a hot piping pizza during the middle of rush if you don’t tip your driver on a regular basis because you are right, they make shit for a pay check and their entire motivation is to get tips which in turn mean they can afford whatever they want to buy. Sometimes that is diapers for their child, sometimes that is a TV for their apartment. If you want the most excellent of service, all of the time, expect to pay for it. Isn’t the saying, quick, cheap, quality, pick two?
