building a savage mkii to train with on the cheap, looking for a good mil-dot 3-9x scope for around 250 or less. i like the leupold mk ar BUT its about $100 over budget. any other good options?
oh and i dont want a bdc style reticle. mil dot only
Take a look at the primary arms 4-14 mil/mil/ffp.
dang thats actually pretty nice!
yeah i looked and didnt find anything in there, should have posted this there though… mods feel free to move but i THINK from the reviews ive read ill go with that PA 4-14 since its just on my .22
Yeah, it’s not like it’s a super fantastic optic… but for 22LR trainers… it’s a great inexpensive option.
Not a scope recomendation but if you go to the SWFA web site and look in their sample list they have some very good scopes for a great price. You can get a better scope for your money than you normally could with great service to boot.
Dude, I had no idea about this. I think my bank account is going to hate you in a little bit…
Back when I lived in the U.S. SWFA were my goto guys for optics. Highly recommended.
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Ordered the PA, ill run it for a while and upgrade later on to something a little nicer.
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Not sure if you’ve got one, but if so does it really focus down to 10 yards?
I sometimes shoot 10 Meter offhand competitions (tiny little targets) and have found that various manufacturers’ claims of “10 yards to infinity” are often bullshit and 15 yards is the best I can get.
Just curious if you happen to know off the top of your head – if you’d have to go check please don’t bother taking the time.
Yeah, I’ve got a couple of them on some rimfire’s. They work well enough.
From what I’ve seen, they do come down to 10yds… if not even closer.
Weaver also makes a mil mil 3-10 which is priced around tht range.
It’s second focal plane and more money, with no parallax adjustment. Would make a horribly bad rimfire optic.
What optic is ffp that’s under 400 bucks? Thats actually worth owning. Do you need a ffp reticle on a 22? will you be engaging movers at extreme diatances? Also that have a mil reticle and mil adjustments? I use the same scope on my 22 and have no problem shooting 10 yards to 200 yards. Horribly bad? Not quite sure about that.
So you’re advocating an optic with a parallax permanently set to 100 - 150yds as a good 22lr optic?
Use whatever makes you happy. Keep handing out that advice, and those taking it will learn for themselves. 
For $250 and under I would get a Burris Fullfield E1 3-9x.
For $300 you could get a Weaver Tactical 3-10x40, which is mil/mil (Midway USA special model, on sale) and has pretty good glass, or a SWFA SS fixed 10x, which has adjustable focus down to 10 yards.
For around $400 there is the Burris MTAC 3.5-10x42, which has adjustable focus, surprisingly good glass, mil/mil and a G2 mildot reticle.
The cheapest FFP I would bother with is the SWFA SS 3-9x42, which is quite a good scope. For $600.
Of those I think the fixed power SS makes the most sense for a .22 trainer.
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Probably gonna get some hate for this one… but… it’s a .22 - unless you’re doing competitive shooting, a BSA or UTG would probably be more than enough. With all the money you save you can buy 5000+ rounds o’ plinking ammo and some popper targets.
I would personally go with the PA scope. I use PA optics on all of my 22LRs…
Mueller 4-14 APT is a great scope for the money. I run one on my CZ452.
The ability to crank it up to 14x helps spotting little 22 cal holes at 100 yards.
Mildot reticle and 1/4 MOA adjustments are not a good combo on a center fire rifle, but I have found no issues on a 22LR.